Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!ihlpg!tan From: tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: angels and devils Message-ID: <2636@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Nov-86 13:17:40 EST Article-I.D.: ihlpg.2636 Posted: Tue Nov 4 13:17:40 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Nov-86 01:01:39 EST References: <1056@navajo.STANFORD.EDU> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 32 < Now a theorem: < If the devil can always force the angel to move to a planet in 2 or more < moves that she was already on or could have reached in 1 move, < then the angel can be trapped. < Proof: < If the angel has an escaping strategy, then assume that she uses an < optimal escaping strategy. < Suppose the angel travels from P1 to P2 in 2 or more moves, and could < have arrived there in 1 move; then the strategy is not optimal because < the devil has gotten at least 1 "free" move. Similarly, if P1=P2, < then the devil has gotten at least 2 free moves. Thus, if the devil < can always force this to occur, then the angel has no escaping strategy. < QED < That isn't supposed to be rigorous; it's just supposed to convince you. ------ Your theorem may be correct, but your "proof" is far from convincing. ------ < This theorem at least reduces the search space; an angel strategy can be < considered to fail as soon as a non-optimal move occurs; you don't < have to grind it out to the bitter end. < To formalize this a little more, say the angel can "see" a planet if < she can move to it in one turn. Keep track of planets the angel has seen < and when they were FIRST seen. At each turn the angel must move to < a planet she sees but has never seen before. ------ Even if your theorem is correct, I do not understand how it justifies your conclusion. The theorem says that if the devil can ALWAYS force a "suboptimal" move, the angel can be trapped. You then conclude that if the devil can force a suboptimal move ONCE, the angel can be trapped. That may be true, but it certainly doesn't follow from your theorem. -- Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL ihnp4!ihlpg!tan