Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!cartan!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms (David desJardins) Newsgroups: sci.math,sci.math.stat,net.sport Subject: Re: probability models for tennis scoring systems Message-ID: <50@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 22-Oct-86 20:14:13 EDT Article-I.D.: cartan.50 Posted: Wed Oct 22 20:14:13 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Oct-86 18:52:23 EDT References: <1715@emory.UUCP> Sender: daemon@cartan.Berkeley.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms (David desJardins) Followup-To: sci.math.stat,net.sport Organization: Math Dept. UC Berkeley Lines: 23 Keywords: probability, tennis, markov chains Xref: mnetor sci.math:48 sci.math.stat:9 net.sport:639 In article <1715@emory.UUCP> riddle@emory.UUCP (Larry Riddle) writes: >[...] However, if one player has a small advantage over the other in >serving efficacy, then this advantage gets magnified when considering >the entire set. Which scoring system produces the least magnification? >Interestingly, the 9 point and the No-Ad systems are "best" in this >respect. This has nothing to do with mathematics, but isn't the system that produces the *greatest* magnification "best"? Presumably the objective is to determine the better player, so it seems desirable to have the most sensitive possible tool for doing that. As for the statistics, I hope that you took into account the length of the sets resulting from the various scoring systems. Otherwise, all you have discovered is that in longer sets the inferior player's chance of winning is reduced (hardly a revelation!). The question you probably want to ask is something like, "Given a certain average number of points to be played, which scoring system best uses those points to discriminate between the players?" Figuring out exactly what question to ask and how to answer it is actually a fairly interesting problem -- I'm not a statistician, so I'll leave it to them to discuss if they wish. -- David desJardins