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From: cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Aspirin vs. Codine
Message-ID: <3967@utah-cs.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 21-Oct-86 13:15:22 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct 21 13:15:22 1986
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Reply-To: cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron)
Organization: Center for Engineering Design, Univ of Utah
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In article <543@cci632.UUCP> rb@ccird2.UUCP (Rex Ballard) writes:
>
>Unfortunately, nurses often have little input with some "egotistical" doctors.
>They have the training to know what is needed, but can do nothing unless the
>attending physician requests their input.
>
	Invariably the nurse knows much more about 'paitient care' than the Doc
but usually the Doc refuses to admit it...

>
>One thing that I have seen/experienced, is the use of "Lamaze" type techniques
>for pain control.  I first saw this used on my father, who for a number of
>reasons could not use normal pain control medications when he had his
>appendix removed. ...

	The best case of this that I have heard about (from at least 2 of the
attending er doc's though I didn't actually see it) was the ob/gyn from this
area (Salt Lake) who was also a lamaze coach/trainer.... He apparently broke
his leg (three places, all in the femur) and was concious and unmedicated all
the way down the slope and down into the hospital - while all the while doing
the lamaze breathing exercises!!!  My wife (who; a - has had 1 child, b - works
in the hospital and ER, and c - has broken her leg skiing and is therefore
d - quite capable of judging the pain levels) was totally astounded as well
as being highly impressed.

-ed cetron
Univ. of Utah
Center for Biomedical Design