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From: mikes@tekecs.TEK.COM (Michael Sellers)
Newsgroups: sci.misc
Subject: Re: H-less liquids
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Date: Sun, 26-Oct-86 23:59:42 EST
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Posted: Sun Oct 26 23:59:42 1986
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Summary: You must be joking

In article <6091@ut-sally.UUCP>, berleant@ut-sally.UUCP (Dan Berleant) writes:
> [...]
> 	If gasoline contains hydrogen (when in fact it doesn't -- it
> 	contains an assortment of octane and other hydrocarbon molecules)

Could you *please* explain this?  Is this humor and its just too late at 
night for me, or are you serious?  Gasoline contains many many hydrogen
atoms covalently bonded to carbons in chains ranging from 1 carbon to
8 or 10 carbons in length.  "Octane" by definition is a molecule containing
a chain of 8 carbons, all singly bonded together, and, in the absence of
any other qualifiers, containing 18 hydrogen atoms.  "Hydrocarbons" by
definition are molecules made up of --you guessed it-- HYDROgen and CARBON.

> 	then glass is full of hydrogen. Silicon nuclei are made of
> 	the stuff. Everything normal is. So there is no H-less
> 	liquid anywhere on earth (except maybe that coffee).

Are you trying to equate hydrogen atoms with protons?  They aren't 
the same (except in extreme cases).  Even in hydroflouric acid (HF),
the hydrogen atom retains some if the electron cloud, making it not
quite a bare proton.  And, short of using a very powerful cyclotron
(and maybe even then), I'd like to see you generate Hydrogen from Silicon.
*That* would be a neat trick.
-- 
			   Mike Sellers
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