Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-unix!hplabs!hp-sdd!andrea From: andrea@hp-sdd.HP.COM (Andrea K. Frankel) Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.misc Subject: Re: NDE's in childhood Message-ID: <582@hp-sdd.HP.COM> Date: Tue, 11-Nov-86 18:19:09 EST Article-I.D.: hp-sdd.582 Posted: Tue Nov 11 18:19:09 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Nov-86 03:08:17 EST References: <2303@bucse.bu-cs.BU.EDU> <6931@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Reply-To: andrea@hp-sdd.UUCP (Andrea K. Frankel) Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Lines: 36 Xref: mnetor sci.med:231 sci.misc:84 In article <6931@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> dcohen@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU ( ) writes: > This is probably the most sensible explanation of NDE's I've seen >yet. The only thing that puzzles me about it is that I can't think of >a good evolutionary advantage to having this neuronal structure >around. Why should it be useful to devote a chunk of brain circuitry >to creating hallucinations of leaving the body? I just finished "Using Your Brain, For a Change" - the latest NLP refinement - and it seems that one of the most significant ways you can decrease the emotional impact of a memory is to change it from associative to dissociative. (Associative = reliving it through your own eyes, from the vantage point you had; dissociative = seeing yourself in the memory, as if from an outside viewpoint.) And vice versa: you can make a memory more significant emotionally by changing from dissociative to associative. The book had many anecdotes about helping depressives, who seem to have about the same number of happy and sad memories as non-depressives, but who have all or most of the happy ones dissociated and the unhappy ones associated! (Clearly, you want it the other way around.) So for an off-the-wall guess extrapolated from the above, our caveman ancestors may have been able to deal with intense pain (such as being gored during a hunt) or other acute unpleasantness by dissociating immediately, even during the experience if possible. It worked for me while getting a wisdom tooth pulled (I was able to get by with less anesthesia than I usually need). So there may be some survival value lurking in there after all. Andrea Frankel, Hewlett-Packard (San Diego Division) (619) 592-4664 "every time that wheel goes round, bound to cover just a little more ground" ______________________________________________________________________________ UUCP : {hplabs|hp-pcd|hpfcla|hpda|noscvax|gould9|sdcsvax}!hp-sdd!andrea UUCP : {cbosgd|allegra|decvax|gatech|sun|tektronix}!hplabs!hp-sdd!andrea ARPA : hp-sdd!andrea@nosc.arpa CSNET : hp-sdd!andrea@hplabs.csnet USnail: 16399 W. Bernardo Drive, San Diego CA 92127-1899 USA