Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site looking.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!looking!brad From: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: net.ai,net.cog-eng,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: Weizenbaum keynote address at U of Waterloo (long) Message-ID: <699@looking.UUCP> Date: Sun, 2-Nov-86 02:59:32 EST Article-I.D.: looking.699 Posted: Sun Nov 2 02:59:32 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Nov-86 23:43:57 EST References: <2689@watdcsu.UUCP> Reply-To: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) Distribution: can Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.ai:3854 net.cog-eng:810 sci.physics:92 sci.math:100 Summary: In article <2689@watdcsu.UUCP> brewster@watdcsu.UUCP (dave brewer, SD Eng, PAMI ) writes: > 5) You have never seen an audience squirm, as they did for the > second lecture. A once premier researcher, addresses his > contemporaries, and tells them they are ethically and morally > bankrupt, and every member of the audience has at least some > small buried doubt that maybe he is right. The audienced "squirmed" as Dr. Weizenbaum accused, not so much because he told us we were morally bankrupt, but because he told us we might be so. His contstant message, or so he said, throughout the evening was, "Computer Scientists, examine the morality of what you are doing." I don't want to belittle this message, because it's important, but it doesn't need a full talk. It was obvious that he had more to say than that, even though he denied he was saying more, but he waffled about this further ground. An audience does not expect hints at immorality, they expect to hear a speaker's real opinions and solid arguments. That the audience wanted an answer to the question, "what sort of work do you think people should abandon" is not surprising. The questions that people like myself, Kelly & Ian! asked all touched on serious aspects of this issue. Dr. Weizenbaum's answers spoke of gray areas and the need for miracles. The only concrete things discussed were the areas of computer vision & self programming natural language interfaces. Perhaps most people in this field really are moral blank slates who have to be reminded that they should consider the risks in what they do. Those who asked the questions certainly were not, and perhaps came seeking more. -- Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. - Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473