Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!sun!falk From: falk@sun.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: A Question Message-ID: <8597@sun.uucp> Date: Mon, 27-Oct-86 20:32:43 EST Article-I.D.: sun.8597 Posted: Mon Oct 27 20:32:43 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 28-Oct-86 18:57:07 EST References: <230@sri-arpa.ARPA> <572@epimass.UUCP> <2182@ecsvax.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 36 > > o Given the old "accellerating-elevator-in-space" experiment, > > how can one within the elevator tell the whether he is > > accellerating or under the influence of gravity? > > > > You can't tell the difference. This is the heart of general > > relativity. > > I've wondered about one "difference" which I once read about. > > Hold a ball in each hand, say 1 meter apart, and level with the floor. > Then let go of them, and they will "drop" to the floor - mark where > they hit. In the accelerating-at-1g-elevator-in-space they will hit > exactly the same distance apart. On the 1-g-surface-of-earth > they will be slightly closer together because they fall along > radii converging at the center of mass of the earth. > > What is the loophole here? Can gravity produce parallel paths > of the falling balls, or does the elevator test only allow one ball, > or ... ? (Please help - I'd hate to discard general relativity > because of this. :-) Two other ways: 2) weigh the ball (or time its acceleration) near the ceiling and near the floor. If there's a gravity gradient, you're on a planet, if not, you're in an acceleration. 3) Tell the elevator operator "I'll give you this nice ball if you tell me if this elevator is accelerating or not" :-) -- -ed falk, sun microsystems falk@sun.com sun!falk