Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cognos.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!glee From: glee@cognos.UUCP (Godfrey Lee) Newsgroups: can.general Subject: Re: Sunday openings Message-ID: <278@cognos.UUCP> Date: Sat, 6-Dec-86 17:43:20 EST Article-I.D.: cognos.278 Posted: Sat Dec 6 17:43:20 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 7-Dec-86 13:18:39 EST References: <2819@watdcsu.UUCP> <708@looking.UUCP> <605@ubc-cs.UUCP> <709@looking.UUCP> <3725@utcsri.UUCP> Reply-To: glee@northstar.UUCP (Godfrey Lee) Distribution: can Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Lines: 54 Summary: In article <3725@utcsri.UUCP> clarke@utcsri.UUCP (Jim Clarke) writes: >> (from Brad Templeton) ... Nobody will be forced to >>work on Sunday. If you want to have kids, it's fully accepted that you >>have to reconcile your job and your desire to be with them. If >>an unemployed worker will serve people on Sunday and you won't, why do >>you demand laws to protect your vested interest? > >I don't like to be personal, but I will: How many children do you have, >Brad? If you do have children, do you stay home with them (when they're >sick, for example) or does your wife? If it's you, then I congratulate >you on "reconciling your job and your desire to be with them". Otherwise >your wife -- like mine -- is caught in the usual bind, and the only dif- >ference between you and me is that I'm not willing to tell her she deserves >it. > >If you don't have children, think hard before you have any. They're more >important than your job, but if you have children you need a job even more >than before. This is not to come to Brad's defense, hi Brad, bet you don't remember me, but... I do have kids, I am not forced to work weekends, but I do find it necessary to work on weekends sometimes (more and more it seems), or worse, to be away on business for days on end. So I have to juggle my career with my desire and need to be with my family (my wife runs her own business, and you think she doesn't HAVE TO work nights and weekends? - a lot more pressure when it is your own money invested!!), so what's new, that is life! I don't ask for government regulations to protect me, I don't even get overtime. So I have more job security than hourly wage employees, or do I? It is a lot easier these days to find hourly-pay jobs than career jobs! ramble... ramble... The point is, Sunday closing is arbitrary, put there not for protecting the workers, or the merchants, or to give families the same day off, or to force them to spend the day together doing nothing (to my wife, if you can't shop, you are doing nothing - Sorry dear, can't resist). It was put there because of religious reasons. If this is a Jewish nation, it would be from sundown Friday to whatever, if this is a Budist nation, probably no sunday, but lots of days off during major religious festivals (equivalent of Christmas and Easter). So, any arguments for keeping Sunday closing based not on religious reasons are not relavant. If one tries to argue based on religion, one will find that to be out of sync with Canada's belief of cultural mosaic (we will respect your culture if you abide by our religion? Come on!). So, either way you look at it, arguing for Sunday closing is pointless!! LET'S SEE THOSE FLAMES! As I said before, arguing for guaranteed days off for workers is a separate issue that I might support, but not Sunday closing! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Godfrey Lee, Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1G 3N3 (613) 738-1440 decvax!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!glee -----------------------------------------------------------------------------