Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utcsri.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!clarke From: clarke@utcsri.UUCP (Jim Clarke) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Sunday openings Message-ID: <3756@utcsri.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Dec-86 14:45:49 EST Article-I.D.: utcsri.3756 Posted: Tue Dec 9 14:45:49 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 10-Dec-86 05:38:55 EST References: <2819@watdcsu.UUCP> <708@looking.UUCP> Reply-To: clarke@utcsri.UUCP (Jim Clarke) Distribution: can Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 39 Summary: (Second try at posting; sorry if you've already seen the first effort.) In article <811@mprvaxa.UUCP> acton@mprvaxa.UUCP (Don Acton) writes: ... referring to an article of mine ... >I certainly do not agree with this last assertion that to have a family >both father and mother *must* work to support it.... Looked at rents lately? Remember, we're talking about retail workers, not you and me. They're allowed to have children too, you know. > .... I do not support any form >of subsidized daycare. Our governments have big enough debts as it is >and I don't want them forking out even more money on another social >program. And presumably you'd like to remove government support for schools and universities? But not for assistance to single mothers, for example; to a single mother (or father) no daycare means no job. If you need daycare and have a low income, you can find cheap daycare. I've seen cheap daycare; have you? It's enough to turn (pardon the exaggeration) Erik Nielsen into a flaming welfare-stater. In the long run, it's not really cheaper either. Bad daycare now means more unemployment and higher welfare costs later. You learn a lot of things before you're six. If you get the chance. Somebody (not sure who) commented here that Sunday opening might let us save on infrastructure costs -- roads and parking lots. Daycare is a similar cost that might increase. You can't just take the savings and forget the costs, you know. You free marketeers sound to me as if you want Sunday opening because it's fairer for consumers and merchants, but you're not interested in fairness to the people who'd work Sundays. That's not a free market -- it's a free lunch. -- Jim Clarke -- Dept. of Computer Science, Univ. of Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 (416) 978-4058 {allegra,cornell,decvax,linus,utzoo}!utcsri!clarke