Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!clyde!cuae2!ihnp4!ethos!rti-sel!rcb From: rcb@rti-sel.UUCP (Random) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Speed is the one true performance metric Message-ID: <1079@rti-sel.UUCP> Date: Tue, 18-Nov-86 08:47:18 EST Article-I.D.: rti-sel.1079 Posted: Tue Nov 18 08:47:18 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Nov-86 22:18:29 EST References: <1510@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Reply-To: rcb@rti-sel.UUCP (Random) Organization: Research Triangle Institute, NC Lines: 29 In article <1510@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> garry%cadif-oak@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu writes: >In article <3576@utcsri.UUCP>, greg@utcsri.UUCP (Gregory Smith) writes: >> This is silly. Broken computers don't give wrong answers. They crash, >> or they log soft errors, or they act flaky. It is almost impossible to >> imagine a hardware fault that would have no visible effect other than >> to make the 'value' (whatever it may be) of the output wrong. > >Can't help donating my favorite horror story: there's a Vax upstairs that >once upon a time a little trouble with some very involved computations. >After telling the user in question, for a couple weeks, to fix his program, >we decided to investigate. Diagnostics ran fine. After much elaborate head- >scratching, we happened to ask it to plot out a nice sine curve. The curve >looked fine too - except for a spike or two. Our jaws dropped. We >checked that plotting program five ways from Sunday, and it was OK. We >pulled the FP card and the drop-outs vanished. > I guess that DEC floating point boards get real strange when they break. We ran some benchmarks recently on some new hardware and our old 750 The benchmarks on the 750 took twice as long as they had 1 year ago. We examined everything we could and eventually determined that the FP card had gone bad. The computer still recognized it as being there, but all floating point instructions generated faults and I guess the CPU interpreted the faults as a missing FP board and activated the emulation routines. So, no crashes, no wrong answers, just half speed. Real wierd huh? -- Random (Randy Buckland) Research Triangle Institute ...!mcnc!rti-sel!rcb