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From: karl@osu-eddie.UUCP (Karl Kleinpaste)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs 18.31 available
Message-ID: <2689@osu-eddie.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 4-Dec-86 15:12:15 EST
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Posted: Thu Dec  4 15:12:15 1986
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asgard@cpro.UUCP writes:
>It is pretty arrogant to force all people to make the same
>poor assumptions.  It breeds elitism and does not help to spread the
>"philosophy" you are trying to spread.  If you really mean what you say
>about free software then you should make some effort to make it more
>available than some mysterious thing like "ftp", which requires a physical
>link to begin with.  The same goes for magtape.  It creates the horrible
>impression that the only people you want to share this "free" software with
>must either be DOD/DARPA-only sites, or sites with the $25K magtape unit,
>which puts the vast majority of us, although sufficiently knowledgable
>about UNIX, into second-class status.

No, no, no, no.  You don't absolutely need FTP, nor do you absolutely
need a magtape unit.  The minimum you need to get by in order to pick
up GNU Emacs is a modem and a willingness to suffer with a 6-hour (or
thereabouts) long distance call to Columbus, Ohio, where osu-eddie
lives.  (For a really rough estimate, figure $8-$10/hour.)  I
distribute the instructions for getting it rather too often, I think,
and Bob Sutterfield just redistributed them again earlier this week.
We have 18.31 available for anybody masochistic enough to get v18
before RMS gives it the final Say-So for general release.  (But it's
doing quite nicely all around right now.)

Don't make rude accusations about supposed elitism until you're sure
of the score.  I originally set up this uucp-availability option for
GNU Emacs specifically *because* I didn't want it to become elitist.

For anyone who saw Bob's latest copy of instructions, be aware that he
referred to 18.30, but diff-18.30-18.31.Z is in place in the same
directory.
-- 
Karl