Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!brl-adm!rutgers!clyde!cuae2!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucdcsp!johnson From: johnson@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: wanted: information about "Creating Message-ID: <80500001@uiucdcsp> Date: Wed, 19-Nov-86 01:52:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsp.80500001 Posted: Wed Nov 19 01:52:00 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Nov-86 23:02:01 EST References: <16409@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Lines: 15 Nf-ID: #R:ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU:16409:uiucdcsp:80500001:000:812 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu!johnson Nov 19 00:52:00 1986 The story that I've heard is that "Creating a User-Interface" will never be published. One of the reasons might be that the Smalltalk user-interface toolkit is undergoing massive changes, and they didn't want to publish something that would soon be obsolete. Smalltalk really needs a good book describing how to use model/view/controllers. One of its greatest strengths is its user-interface and the ability it gives to Smalltalk programmers to quickly create complicated graphical user-interfaces. M/V/C both needs and deserves to be well described. I see more and more systems that are take-offs of M/V/C. Of course, the derivation is never mentioned, and it might not even be known by the authors, since they borrowed some ideas from someone who borrowed some ideas, ... , from Smalltalk. Ralph Johnson