Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!munnari!kre From: kre@munnari.oz (Robert Elz) Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers Subject: Re: Replying to Sender or (gasp) Return-path Message-ID: <1322@munnari.oz> Date: Wed, 19-Nov-86 15:46:54 EST Article-I.D.: munnari.1322 Posted: Wed Nov 19 15:46:54 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Nov-86 22:38:07 EST References: <891@brl-adm.ARPA> Organization: Comp Sci, Melbourne Uni, Australia Lines: 42 This discussion is getting absurdly out of hand. No-one has suggested using the "Return-Path" for replies anytime that there's a From or Reply-To field in the header. It doesn't seem entirely unreasonable to me to allow replies to the Return-Path (or Sender) if there's no From in the message (which clearly indicates that the sending mailer is broken). But as reported, rfc822 forbids this. In that case, I think I'd just "fix" my mailer - if an incoming message arrives with no From: field, then copy the Return-Path to a From header... Same effect, and this isn't forbidden. The right solution is to fix the broken mailer - but that's someone else's broken mailer, and getting others to fix their broken programmes isn't always easy. But, the rfc822 comments on where replies should be sent cannot possibly be mandatory - its entirely irrational to try to forbid to whom anyone sends mail (at least just on the basis of what's in a header, ignoring political/financial problems). A reply is just a mail item, I can send it to anyone I like. All that's material here is for the headers to give some guidance on where replies are intended to go, and for mailers to use this guidance to establish the default recipients. Normally, if someone sends me mail with both From & Sender headers (indicating in the typical case that a secretary sent mail on behalf of someone else) I would send a reply to the From header. This would be a reply on some matter of substance in the mail. On the other hand, if I don't like the way the mail is typed (say I find some spelling error that offends me, or the layout makes the mail hard to read on my terminal - wider than 80 cols) then I think sending a "reply" to the Sender is entirely reasonable. Yes, that's not a "reply" in some narrow sense of the word. I intrepret the word more liberally though - any message I send that is a response, of any kind, to mail I receive is a reply (ie: if receiving the original mail was the stimulus necessary to send my mail, then my mail is a reply). Robert Elz kre%munnari.oz@seismo.css.gov