Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!nike!styx!lll-lcc!ptsfa!well!spencer From: spencer@well.UUCP (Randal Spencer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: telecommunications Message-ID: <2063@well.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Nov-86 04:47:36 EST Article-I.D.: well.2063 Posted: Mon Nov 17 04:47:36 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Nov-86 05:56:11 EST Organization: Whole Earth Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 75 As far as all this talk about vt100 goes, I use it all the time, but I would really like a more professional Kermit like interface. Say maybe do honest wild card sends. I have used Kermit for every computer I can lay my hands on and VT100 is really pushing the bottom of the limit as far as sophisticated Kermit file transfer protocol goes. Well, if it was supposed to be Kermit it would be called Kermit. It is called VT100, the most sophisticated TERMINAL program for the Amiga. And as far as Kermit for the Amiga goes I would kind of like a more Mac Kermit like interface, without getting rid of the nice command line option. Amiga Kermit is more sophisticated than Mac Kermit but I see the Amiga as being able to have the Best telecommunication program ever! Anybody heard of Project Victoria? Or what is that, "uw" for the Mac with the multiple windows onto Unix? How about using Matt's asyncronis (it's late) disk writes to not slow down file transfers and session logging. Or just sliding windows implimented on a Kermit for one of my machines! I like the Mac version because it opens dialog boxes for file transfers and such. It's alot prettier than Amiga Kermit. I am not saying that I want Mac Kermit for my Amiga, I love the fact that I can call Amiga Kermit as a command line. That is one of it's many attractions over VT100 2.2. Jack Rouse did a wonderful job. He is one of the members of the Software Distillery in NC. The Blink people (which still beats Alink, at least on the stuff I have tried since I got gamma). Someone recently was saying that they had found the sources for Amiga Kermit. I think that Jack once though of posting the sources for Kermit but they were TOO big. I know that members of the Software Distillery read this net (Hi, John) and would be more than happy to tell you how to get a copy of the most recent version of Kermit for the Amiga (is there anything new with it these days?). I myself have done my share of distributing it as a part of distributing IBM and C-64 and Amiga Kermits. But SD in NC will have the most recent copies. Last comment and then I will go home: I am using Mike ("he'll be jello when he's dead") Meyer's MicroGnuEmacs 0.4 and love it to death. Heck, I am using it right now. All other editors are nothing compared to this one. However I like the c-tags function of Manx's Z editor. This has compile time options to make a very customized Emacs. Lot's of mouse commands, full menu (like Andy's) only if you want all the normal menus are in the first menu, and all the commands are in subcommands. This leaves the rest of the menu bar for one of my favorite features. A Browser like way of getting files loaded in. The second menu says Disks, and the menuitems are df0: df1: and ram:, select one and the next menu is that directory, and so on, and so on. 'es var-ry niice! If you startup your CLI in 48 column mode Emacs will go to 48 column mode like Andy's Emacs, I just wish that there was a compile time option to open Emacs on a different screen and then be able to go from 24 to 48 with a command. Seems like it might be too much trouble, since this Emacs will run on anything from a CP/M machine to a Tops-20. Nice work Mike, have you seen fish 35-40 yet? All right, I have ranted enough for this week. In closing I am wondering if there is anyone out there who is reading there UseNet mail on their Amiga. I am busy implementing ReadNews on the Amiga and having it Auto- matically go and get my news for me, and automatically mail off anything I edit on my Amiga. I am in the beginning stages, but if someone else is already doing it, why should I duplicate the effort, or maybe someone would like to help! If it gets good and transportable I may publish the results some day. Oh look, a cute .signature file! -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Randy Spencer P.O. Box 4542 Berkeley CA 94704 (415)284-4740 ...well!spencer I N F I N I T Y spencer@USCVAXQ.bitnet Now working for |||||||||||::::... . . spencer@usc-oberon.arpa But in no way |||||||||||||||::::.. .. . . Officially representing ||||||||||||:::::... .. s o f t w a r e -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-