Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!eris!mwm From: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: telecommunications Message-ID: <1730@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 18-Nov-86 23:56:23 EST Article-I.D.: jade.1730 Posted: Tue Nov 18 23:56:23 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Nov-86 21:52:30 EST References: <2063@well.UUCP> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 129 [This should really go direct to Randy, but I need to place credit where credit is due.] In article <2063@well.UUCP> spencer@well.UUCP (Randal Spencer) writes: >Or what is that, "uw" for the Mac with the multiple windows onto Unix? I've written two, neither of which was good enough to release. Wiring it into VT100 is on the list of things to do. See the complete list at the end so you'll have some idea of how long this is going to take. >I am using Mike ("he'll be jello when he's dead") Meyer's Uh, that *WAS* "I'll be mellow when I'm dead." The line has changed, though. >MicroGnuEmacs 0.4 and love it to death. Heck, I am using it right now. Thank you for the kind words. 0.4 is the last beta release. My understanding is that the real release has gone to mod.sources. It will also be available at Winner's Circle Systems (in Berkeley) in the near future. This is version 1a (numbering scheme chosen so as not to coincide with any existing microemacs. Also because it's the most rational :-). >All other editors are nothing compared to this one. However I like Damn straight. If you've got an Amiga, this is *THE* microemacs to use. Anywhere else you can't run GNU, it should be seriously considered. However, most of the work on the Amiga version was done by Mic K[a-z]* (mic@utexas.ngp.edu), and hence he deserves most of the credit. The GNU-ishness and the mouse interface and the browser are mine, but Mic rewrote them and made it all work well. There are also several (many) others who chased nasty bugs out of the thing, and fixed them. >the c-tags function of Manx's Z editor. The GNU etags may appear in the next version. Maybe. >This has compile time options to make a very customized Emacs. Warning: Due to the large number of compile-time commands, not all variations of the compile have been properly tested with both Amiga compilers. Nuts, not even the five configurations that come with it have been properly tested (though they DO compile - or at least should). Testing an Emacs (even a small one) takes time. Bug reports (and fixes, I hope) should be handled as described in the documentation that Mic wrote. >Lot's of mouse commands, full menu >(like Andy's) only if you want all the normal menus are in the first >menu, and all the commands are in subcommands. This leaves the rest >of the menu bar for one of my favorite features. A Browser like way >of getting files loaded in. The second menu says Disks, and the >menuitems are df0: df1: and ram:, select one and the next menu is that >directory, and so on, and so on. 'es var-ry niice! Not browser like, that *is* the browser. That's what became of the second version I never wrote - it got wired into Emacs, where it's much more useful. >If you startup your CLI in 48 column mode Emacs will go to 48 column >mode like Andy's Emacs, I just wish that there was a compile time option >to open Emacs on a different screen and then be able to go from 24 to >48 with a command. Seems like it might be too much trouble, since this >Emacs will run on anything from a CP/M machine to a Tops-20. Nice work Actually, Mic and I talked about doing a version that ran on a second Screen. Wouldn't be hard to do, but we didn't think it would be worth the trouble. You might try compiling with TOGGLE_ZOOMS set. You can then go from 48 rows (not columns) by 80 columns to (arbitrary size, up to 47 rows by 77 columns) and back with shift-meta-control-echo-mouse. The default resizeable window is 23x77. >Mike, have you seen fish 35-40 yet? Just the listing. I was glad to see the Little Smalltalk on it, so I can take that off my list of things to do. Going to go looking for them again later this week. And maybe try and buy the real 1.2 disks. >All right, I have ranted enough for this week. In closing I am wondering >if there is anyone out there who is reading there UseNet mail on their >Amiga. I am busy implementing ReadNews on the Amiga and having it Auto- >matically go and get my news for me, and automatically mail off anything >I edit on my Amiga. I am in the beginning stages, but if someone else is >already doing it, why should I duplicate the effort, or maybe someone would >like to help! If it gets good and transportable I may publish the results >some day. Hey, great. Just make sure that it won't be hard to make it talk to the remote netnews server if you've got some form of TCP/IP on your Amiga. >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Randy Spencer P.O. Box 4542 Berkeley CA 94704 (415)284-4740 ...well!spencer > I N F I N I T Y spencer@USCVAXQ.bitnet >Now working for |||||||||||::::... . . spencer@usc-oberon.arpa >But in no way |||||||||||||||::::.. .. . . >Officially representing ||||||||||||:::::... .. > s o f t w a r e >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nice to see you've found a job. mwm@berkeley.edu ucbvax!mwm