Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!CORY.BERKELEY.EDU!dillon From: dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Initial Opinion of Amiga Message-ID: <8611200749.AA08587@cory.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 20-Nov-86 02:49:31 EST Article-I.D.: cory.8611200749.AA08587 Posted: Thu Nov 20 02:49:31 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Nov-86 08:50:35 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 49 I don't like something, I change it. If somebody else doesn't like something and changes it, there is no guarentee that I won't like his modification. We could admit that it makes sense to keep with one way, but if we did that 20 years ago, where would we be now? If we do it now where would we be in another 20 years? I'll tell you where... in the stone age. Thus, things that were both well conceived and applicable to today's world are still around and being used (ASCII). Other things are going out (short filenames). Some new things will die (Crazy #? of AmigaDos, I hope). I actually agree with you in many of the examples you listed below. The only way your going to get what you want is if you bitch and moan, hack up 'fixes'... Effecting the change could be a simple matter of terminology. If you start CALLING something by the 'proper' name, the people who agree with your name will also start calling it by that name. If enough people start agreeing with you, you have a standard. Just apply a little Psychology (I don't want to give away too many of my secrets!)! -Matt Dillon P.S. I think I'll go back to signing my name 'Matt' your message: >John Gilmore {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa >Synopsis: Why be deliberately different? > >Jon Forrest brought up a lot of good nits about the Amiga. >Sure, if you are a raving wild lunatic hacker like many of us, >you can adjust to the idiot-syncracies of any system, and even >vehemently defend them against the infidels on inferior systems. > >But among ourselves, couldn't we admit that Yet Another Way to name >files in a hierarchical file system is one more way too many? Couldn't >we (except RMS) admit that while ^S and ^Q flow control has its vices, >it does have many virtues and is universally known? Couldn't we, who >all think regular expresions are great, settle on ONE form of regular >expressions? (Admittedly, Unix has two, but AmigaDos could aspire >to be better than Unix, instead of just different.) Could we agree >that a file system design which makes file opens fast at the expense of >slow directory reads might benefit from a redesign? Can we recognize >that having no clean way to kill a task without crashing the system is >something that requires attention? And could we stop calling a command >language of typed commands which start up programs from a file system >an "advanced user interface"? >--