Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!wanginst!ulowell!walton From: walton@ametek.UUCP (Steve Walton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Compiler wars (FLAME AHEAD) Message-ID: <814@ulowell.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Dec-86 15:40:40 EST Article-I.D.: ulowell.814 Posted: Wed Dec 3 15:40:40 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Dec-86 00:11:33 EST Sender: page@ulowell.UUCP Lines: 44 Jeff Gortatowsky writes (about Manx's 3.40 update coming out in January): >This is very disappointing. As part of the incentive for buying the >commercial version of their compiler is a year of free updates, I feel >a bit 'taken'. I bought Manx (directly from them) sometime in the >February/March 1986 time frame. It seems if the above is true, I'll >be darn lucky to just 'squeak in' one update. I'm not directly >flaming Manx.. I understand they had to delay for 1.2. It's just >disappointing. My understanding of the current situation, based on various postings from Jim Goodnow to the WELL, is that ALL current owners of both the commercial ($500) AND developer ($300) package will receive the update free, no matter how long it takes to go out the door. Owners of the commercial package have been (should have been?) receiving beta-test versions of the new release, many of which have been sufficiently bug-free to use for production work. I believe that owners of the commercial package will also receive the next update after the current one free, but call Manx and check. #define FLAME ON #if !defined(SENSITIVE_EYES) As for the Lattice update: Ho, hum, now Lattice gives you what Manx had in its last release, for a mere $75 update fee. For $225, they'll also throw in a Make utility which is 48K long and doesn't have a default .c to .o rule built in (according to the review in Issue #8 of Amazing Computing), as well as a touch program which is 19K long. How many of you have 67K free on your C development disk? The PD make which I just ported to the Amiga (but won't distribute until 1.2 and the new Aztec compiler arrive) is 21K long and has such a built-in rule. The Aztec one is similar. My advice: save your money, sell your Lattice compiler to some poor sucker, and buy 3.40 of Aztec even if it isn't out until January. In-line 68020/68881 code, a make utility, a linker which can detect and use standard Amiga-format object files and libraries, and code which, I'm willing to wager, will still be smaller and faster and quicker to develop than Lattice's even if you use BLINK. If it sounds like I'm down on Lattice, well, I am. Here at work, we have a high-priced license for Lattice's UNIX->MS/DOS cross compiler, Version 3.10 of which is now almost a year late. The last beta version which we received pushed the two words of long constants onto the stack in the wrong order... #endif #undef FLAME_ON Steve Walton ametek!walton@csvax.caltech.edu My employer disavows any knowledge of my actions.