Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!rutgers!clyde!cuae2!gatech!akgua!mtune!mtunb!dmt From: dmt@mtunb.UUCP (Dave Tutelman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: IBM-PC keyboard for 6300 has anyone done this? Message-ID: <788@mtunb.UUCP> Date: Sat, 29-Nov-86 10:39:18 EST Article-I.D.: mtunb.788 Posted: Sat Nov 29 10:39:18 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 1-Dec-86 06:39:36 EST References: <1519@ihlpl.UUCP> <328@neoucom.UUCP> Reply-To: dmt@mtunb.UUCP (Dave Tutelman) Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Information Systems - Lincroft, NJ Lines: 54 In article <328@neoucom.UUCP> wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes: > >I don't think that merly rewiring the plug on an IBM keyboard >is adequate to get it to work with the 6300. It looks like the >baud rate is different to me, as I couldn't get it to work. Actually, the whole protocol is a little different. A transposition cable isn't enough to solve the problem. >Two of >our 6300s here have replacement keyboards. One machine has an AT&T >version of the Keytronic 5151 which even comes with a db-9 on the >end of the cord. I've used the Keytronics. It's pretty nice, and I never noticed any incompatibilities. You might also try AT&T's new 302 keyboard, with better key placement and size than the original 301. I'm using it right now. >... =============================================== >By the way, one of my older 6300's that was in the days of 256K and >10 meg drives did indeed come with all the chips soldered to the >board. The only socket in the machine was a blank one for the >8087. We flamed the AT&T salesperson, who produced the AT&T memory >expansion card to get it up to 512K. I was suprised when I >observed that the AT&T memroy card has to go in one of the slots >that has the short socket near the front of the machine, although I >don't see any reason why you couldn't use one of the expansion >cards for regular pc-compatibles. Actually, the only reason is speed. The speed ordering is: - FASTEST - on the motherbaord. - SLOWER - The plug-in board from AT&T gives a wait-state on each access. - SLOWER STILL - Commercial plug-in boards using only the PC-bus. They don't use the full 16-bit capacity of the 8086. Remember that the PC and XT are 8088s with an 8-bit data bus. Thus all their memory accesses are single bytes. The 6300's speed advantage derives in part from a two-byte data bus, with the extra byte on the "short socket". > > --Bill > >(wtm@neoucom.UUCP) --------------------------------------------------------------- ---=== Dave Tutelman -------===== Physical - AT&T Information Systems ----------====== Room 1K218 ==--------======== 307 Middletown-Lincroft Rd. ====---========= Lincroft, NJ 07738 ============ Logical - ...ihnp4!mtuxo!mtunb!dmt ====== Audible - (201)-576-2442 ---------------------------------------------------------------