Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!sdcsvax!gould9!joel From: joel@gould9.UUCP (Joel West) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: 68851 access levels, future Message-ID: <898@gould9.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Dec-86 02:50:51 EST Article-I.D.: gould9.898 Posted: Wed Dec 3 02:50:51 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 3-Dec-86 06:31:52 EST Organization: Western Software Technology, Vista, CA Lines: 25 Keywords: 68851, 68030, 68040 I was reading my 68851 technical summary tonight (incidentally, has anyone seen the actual user's manual? The local Motorola office doesn't have it.) and came across a few questions when it began to make sense. 1. Isn't the ring numbering scheme (access levels) backwards? An unprivileged 68000 program would have address $00xxxxxx, but with the PMMU this becomes $E0xxxxxx. On the VAX, with two address spaces (for four access levels), user-level space is $00xxxxxxx to $7Fxxxxxx, which seems more normal. 2. Is anyone actually using the PMMU with access levels? 2, 4 or 8? 3. I saw some preliminary documentation on the MC68030 that indicated restrictions on the CALLM/RTM usage, but I don't have anything more than the technical summary available now. Is the CALLM the same, and does it support 1-8 access levels? Or is the access level scheme being phased out? 4. Would it be safe to assume that processors after the MC68030 will include an upward-compatible MMU? -- Joel West MCI Mail: 282-8879 Western Software Technology, POB 2733, Vista, CA 92083 {cbosgd, ihnp4, pyramid, sdcsvax, ucla-cs} !gould9!joel joel%gould9.uucp@NOSC.ARPA