Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!amd!intelca!mipos3!omepd!psu-cs!reed!percival!bucket!rickb From: rickb@bucket.UUCP (Rick Bensene) Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: Re: Brain-damaged Terminal Contest Message-ID: <183@bucket.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Nov-86 01:31:07 EST Article-I.D.: bucket.183 Posted: Mon Nov 24 01:31:07 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Nov-86 21:21:22 EST References: <1447@kitty.UUCP> Organization: Rick's Home-Grown UNIX; Portland, OR. Lines: 46 Summary: A Flexowriter "computer"... > > Didn't some of the Friden Flexowriters use a paper tape code that > was NOT ASCII? > I remember once seeing a Flexowriter "computer" (I am serious). > This consisted of a Flexowriter sitting on top of a cabinet approximately > 24" wide by 24" deep by 30" high. Inside the base cabinet was the guts > of a mechanical calculator (probably also a Friden) which had a zillion > solenoids and contact switches, in addition to a number of relays. This > device apparently interfaced the calculator to the Flexowriter, and was > definitely a mass-produced product. I don't go back far enough to know of a relay version, but I was associated in my very younger days (next-door nieghbor who baby-sat my brother and I when we were quite young) with some people who owned a company that calibrated daily tanks. The job involved taking calibrated amounts of water, and measuring the depth of the water in the tank using accurate 'dip sticks', and then from the experimental data, use interpolation to generate a chart which would give the number of pounds of milk in the tank for any dipstick reading. Anyway, back to the point...these folks had a very interesting machine the back room of their house which was a Friden Flexowriter with a box bolted on the back of it which was as wide and tall as the Flexowriter, and added about 9 inches to its depth. The box was full of boards with transistors all over them, and had a small array of core memory. The box was capable of simple math, mainly addition and subtraction of fixed size, fixed point numbers. It was 'programmable' by reading a punched tape into core, but had very limited capabilites. When they first purchased the box, I recall the Friden people being out there for days on end trying to figure out how to program the box to make it properly do the job. Turns out that the job was THE MOST complex program they had ever written for the machine, and they had to go through some real gyrations to make it fit. I later wrote about 100 lines of BASIC on a North*Star Horizon that did the job infinitely faster, and in a much friendlier environment. It was an incredible machine for its time (late 1960's), but hopelessly outdated just a few years after it was purchased. I would be willing to bet that the relay-filled box mentioned in Larry L.'s posting above was the precursor to the transistorized version that so intrigued me in my younger days (probably responsible in part for my intense interest in computing machines as a youngster). -- Rick Bensene ..tektronix!tekig4!rickb (work) ..tektronix!reed!{omen, percival}!bucket!rickb (home) USMail: 1815 N.E. 148th, Portland, Oregon 97230