Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!husc6!rutgers!lll-crg!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Best hardcopy terminals Message-ID: <1374@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Mon, 1-Dec-86 21:26:06 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1374 Posted: Mon Dec 1 21:26:06 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Dec-86 02:42:29 EST References: <1438@kitty.UUCP> <2516@phri.UUCP> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 26 Oh come now! If you really want the absolute best hardcopy terminal for its time, how can you compare ANYTHING that DEC built to the Selectric? The IBM 2741 was packaged in a desk, but various people including Anderson-Jacobson, Trendata, Datel, and others put the mechanism onto a desktop. These little hummers ran at 11.9 cps, 134.5 bps, using the same modems later used for 300 baud ASCII, and contained the magic Selectric keyboard that nobody, not even IBM, could quite duplicate in newer technology. The print quality was superb -- the same as the standard for business correspondence, the Selectric typewriter -- and hundreds of fonts were available on typeballs. They used any kind of paper you could wrap around a platen, tractor feed or not, and would make carbons if you cared. Ribbons were easy to change. While these were not portable terminals, I personally know a salesman who lugged one to customer sites for demos, and know another person who set one up on the Metroliner train between Washington and Philadelphia and called out to his system in Paoli. (They were providing phone service on trains in those days.) The only drawback, besides the speed and the half-duplex operation of the underlying protocol, was that hanging your hair, fingers, jewelry, or other "personal objects" inside the print mechanism could be hazardous to your hair, fingers, jewelry, ... -- John Gilmore {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa "I can't think of a better way for the War Dept to spend money than to subsidize the education of teenage system hackers by creating the Arpanet."