Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!SRI-KL.ARPA!PHayes From: PHayes@SRI-KL.ARPA (cas) Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: moral responsibility Message-ID: <8611050749.AA24116@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 3-Nov-86 13:59:37 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8611050749.AA24116 Posted: Mon Nov 3 13:59:37 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Nov-86 21:48:22 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 19 Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa The idea of banning vision research ( or any other, for that matter ) is even sillier and more dangerous than Bill Trost points out. The analogy is not to ban automatic transmissions, but THINKING about automatic transmissions. And banning thinking about anything is about as dangerous as any course of action can be, no matter how highminded or sincerely morally concerned those who call for it. To be fair to Weizenbaum, he does have a certain weird consistency. He tells me, for example, that in his view helicopters are intrinsically evil ( as the Vietnam war has shown ). One can see how the logic works: if an artifact is ( or can be ) used to do more bad than good, then it is evil, and research on evil things is immoral. While this is probably not the place to start a debate in theoretical ethics, I do think that this view, while superficially attractive, simply doesnt stand up to a little thought, and can be used to label as wicked anything which one dislikes for any reason at all. Weizenbaum has made a successful career by systematically attacking AI research on the grounds that it is somehow immoral, and finding a large and willing audience. He doesnt make me squirm. Pat Hayes -------