Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!mordor!sri-spam!sri-unix!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) Newsgroups: mod.comp-soc Subject: Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Computer State Message-ID: <889@hplabsc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Nov-86 14:17:54 EST Article-I.D.: hplabsc.889 Posted: Thu Nov 20 14:17:54 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Nov-86 02:50:52 EST Reply-To: mandel@well.UUCP (Tom Mandel) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Lines: 27 Approved: taylor@hplabs Reference: <875@hplabsc.UUCP> This article is from well!mandel (Tom Mandel) and was received on Thu Nov 20 02:55:54 1986 Nicely written review of _The Rise of the Computer State_, Dave. My main comment is not so much about the thesis of the book, which is hard to refute and is probably accurate, but rather about the remarkable lack of concern *most* of the population has regarding what one might term "information privacy." Certainly, there are many individuals and several concerned interest groups worried about the increasing incursions on privacy due to computers, sophisticated telecommunications, and increasingly ubiquitous and interconnected databases, both commercial and government. This has been an issue that has long been discussed in this and more traditional media. But what continues to be noteworthy, as far as I'm concerned, is that this is apparently *not* a pressing issue for most of the public. Often it is only when a particular abuse occurs -- for instance, an erroneous credit report on a person -- that that person gets upset about the invasion of privacy. In general, rather than being concerned about new kinds of invasion of privacy, most citizens seem rather complacent about this development. I would like to ask others in this modgroup why they think this complacency exists. Tom Mandel ARPA: mandel@sri-kl.arpa UUCP: {ptsfa,hplabs,lll-crg,hoptoad,apple}!well!mandel