Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!ametek.UUCP!walton From: walton@ametek.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: What does driving cost? Message-ID: <12252021756.50.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Mon, 3-Nov-86 13:05:36 EST Article-I.D.: RED.12252021756.50.MCGREW Posted: Mon Nov 3 13:05:36 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Nov-86 05:43:58 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: ametek!walton@csvax.caltech.edu Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 50 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu To: cit-vax!mcgeer@sirius.berkeley.edu In Poli-Sci V6 #97, you write: In the first place, did the factories precede the transit lines, or the transit lines precede the factories? In the second place, the very best system of rapid transit in the world is decentralized, and privately owned and operated. It sits in your garage and mine, and it's a damned sight better way to get from A to B than any transit system I've ever ridden on... I think this point deserves some expounding on; this mild diatribe was inspired at least in part by a recent Auto Club study calling for the construction of 400 miles of new freeway (at a cost of $20 billion) in Southern California by the year 2000. Why is it that, even though an automobile driven by a single person is clearly less efficient (uses more resources) than mass transit, it is often both cheaper and more pleasant, especially when a fair valuation of one's own time is used? There is only one answer: Massive Government Subsidies. During the Carter administration, Congress debated the trucking deregulation bill (which included an increase in interstate truck taxes). At the time, All Things Considered did a series of interviews with various local transportation officials. The mayor of Indianapolis stated that direct taxes on vehicles paid only about 1/3 of the cost of building and maintaining roads in his city, with the remainder coming from general funds. The secretary of transporation of Georgia cited a study done by his state which showed that trucks caused 95% of the wear on roads, yet even with the higher truck taxes the trucks would only be paying about half of the maintenance costs. But such things aren't even the largest subsidy. The largest one of all is that the Government owns the land on which the roads are built and will not sell it, even for a good price. If the roads were privately owned, the users of the roads would have to pay the owners at least as much as the owners could receive by leasing the land on which the road sits to someone else for another purpose. For the interstates in the Western deserts, this would be very little. For the freeways in downtown LA, this would be a huge amount, much more than drivers currently pay the Government for use of the roads. Evidence: parking in downtown Los Angeles during an 8-hour work day now costs about $200 per month in a garage which holds perhaps 200 cars in a space the size of a large midtown intersection. That is a lot of money. Yet we hear from the Libertarians and from the Auto Club that mass transit cannot be built unless it is self supporting. To which I reply: bring on your libertarian free transportation market! Let ALL forms of transit have a price which accurately reflects the cost of providing it. You may be surprised at the results, though. -Steve Walton -------