Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!clyde!cuae2!ihnp4!ucbvax!RED.RUTGERS.EDU!MCGREW From: MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles) Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: Reagan, again Message-ID: <12254915567.42.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Fri, 14-Nov-86 14:01:47 EST Article-I.D.: RED.12254915567.42.MCGREW Posted: Fri Nov 14 14:01:47 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Nov-86 00:53:26 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 49 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu Comes the news that, well, yes, in fact the Russians WERE telling the truth when they said that Ronnie had no objections to the idea of 100% nuclear disarmament in 10 years, in spite of what the White House has maintained for the last few days. Yet another example of conscious prevarication/disinformation by our government, intended to make the Russians look bad. You remember the Russians: those notorious prevaricators who, as we all learned in Civics, are to be despised because they are so willing to let the truth fall to their own interests. Really, I can't get angry with the Reagan Administration anymore. I've just exhausted my outrage at the years of distortion, lies and self-delusion that have gone into policy after policy, so that I can't even get excited about this last month's litany. Does anybody care? Certainly, the people don't seem to care, or even notice, this latest round of sleaziness in the defense of liberty. Does anybody understand this? Does anybody have any idea why Reagan never seems to get hurt, regardless of how low his Administration stoops, or of how ignorant (to use the charitable characterization) he himself seems? If your inclination is to respond to this with "they aren't responding because he IS doing a good job", then I request your participation in this thought experiment: what would Reagan have to do to get a substantial body of the American people disillusioned with him? Child molestation? Drug dealing? Not serious responses. Besides, these would just be trumped-up charges by a claque of liberals. War crimes? Take a serious look at what the "freedom fighters" in Nicaragua are up to and you'll forget about that one. Flagrant incompetence? How can somebody be incompetent who leaves everything but the personality up to his aides? Undeniable senility? Well, he's never been a flash in the pan. Besides, he's such a nice man; we can probably muddle along for another two years. Etc. Etc. The point of the exercise is to support the following assertion: the American people have decided to "like" Ronald Reagan, no matter what he does. They have equated their sense of national identity with him, and they are not going to turn on him any more than they will attack their own mothers. If you disagree with this, I repeat the challenge: tell me ANYTHING remotely within the realm of possibility that Reagan could do to cause the public to lose faith in him. I would also like to hear discussion of the ramifications of this for the Republican party, the US, and the political system in general. How do people get into this god-like position? Why isn't this a serious weakness in the system? Does this mean that George Bush is doomed (if so, maybe it isn't a serious weakness, after all)? Has this ever happened before? Will it happen again, and with whom? Steve Upstill -------