Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!SEISMO.CSS.GOV!rick From: rick@SEISMO.CSS.GOV (Rick Adams) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Poor performance related to egp? Message-ID: <8610310055.AA01124@beno.CSS.GOV> Date: Thu, 30-Oct-86 19:55:52 EST Article-I.D.: beno.8610310055.AA01124 Posted: Thu Oct 30 19:55:52 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 31-Oct-86 14:49:18 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 22 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa I can't help but wonder if the poor internet performance is related to the HORRIBLE routes that egp says to use. I have seen improvements in round trip icmp echo times of 1000% by ignoring the route egp says to use and manually forcing a route into the system. In many cases, it is the difference between connecting at all and timing out. Todays horrible case has been routing to 128.96 (bellcore.com) through lbl-milnet-gw instead of the rational relay.cs.net. Other horrible routes have included rutgers through purdue instead of the direct rutgers arpanet host. Are the egp routes supposed to be reasonable? I'm not that familiar with the theory behind them, but in practice, the suck badly. When I can get a 10 to 1 performance improvement by hard coding specific routes to override egp, I wonder if this is part of the internet congestion problem. It seems like a major performance gain for everyone could be realized by having the egp core systems advertise rational routes. ---rick