Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!jkh From: jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) Newsgroups: mod.rec.guns Subject: BATF: If These Guys Were Intelligent, They'd Be Dangerous Message-ID: <1531@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Mon, 27-Oct-86 14:31:04 EST Article-I.D.: jade.1531 Posted: Mon Oct 27 14:31:04 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 28-Oct-86 19:13:56 EST Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 32 Approved: jkh@ucbjade Author: voder!kontron!cramer@ucbvax.Berkeley.Edu (Clayton Cramer) To: voder!ucbopal!jkh Article: 10:43 I'm a firearms dealer, and the most recent publication from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms had me rolling on the floor with laughter. There are a number of minor differences between he Colt AR-15 lower receiver and the M-16 lower receiver to discourage dropping the M-16 parts in place and building an automatic rifle. (Not to say it can't be done -- it's just not so obvious that any fool can do it.) There are a number of companies that manufacture lower receivers that are like the M-16 -- not the AR-15. Until recently, I wasn't sure which lower receiver would accept the M-16 parts, and what M-16 parts were necessary to build a full auto AR-15. Those wonderful people at BATF have solved the problem. (Which is not to say that I would actually BUILD one -- it's just nice to know how.) The most recent newsletter sent to dealers tells you, "Don't install the following M-16 parts in the AR-15-type lower receivers manufactured by the following companies, or you will illegally build a machine gun." And then they list the companies that manufacture such lower receivers, then list the M-16 parts needed, complete with drawings of the M-16 parts, and how they differ from the AR-15 parts. Also, I can't seem to get a path to Gary Traveis. Please have him give me a call at (415) 965-7020 x113. Remember: If you are in the Bay Area: rifles, shotguns, or bulk ammunition -- e-mail me and I will give you a very friendly price. Clayton E. Cramer