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From: jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard)
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Subject: Submission to mod.rec.guns (Re: .308 semi-auto rifles)
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Date: Wed, 29-Oct-86 19:36:31 EST
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Posted: Wed Oct 29 19:36:31 1986
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Author: hplabs!bnrmtv!zarifes@ucbvax.Berkeley.Edu (Kenneth Zarifes)


Article: 10:51


Article: 10:31

>> As I understand it, the XGI was discontinued
>> due to design and production problems.  I was also
>> interested in it, as it seemed to be the answer to 
>> the semi-auto .308 rifle void.  The HK 91 remains 
>> the only game in town.

There are several viable alternatives to the HK 91 as
a .308 assault rifle.

M1A (semi-auto M14) - Very accurate, and reliable, if you
get a good one.  My friend owns one, and once we got the
gas plunger unrusted with Break-Free, it works great.  It's
easy to shoot, and super accurate.  We got 2" groups, offhand,
at 100 yards with cheap ammo and iron sights.  With good ammo,
some skill and a scope you're taking accuracy.

FN-FAL - Very expensive in the past, but the new version is
cheaper.  Considered by some to be the best battle rifle made.

Galil .308 - Supposedly very reliable, also expensive.

AK-47 clones - Some of these are available in .308

There are others, but I don't know all the names...

The Ruger XG1 would have been a nice addition.  However after
seeing the M1A in action, I'd be willing to risk getting a gun
which was sub-optimal just to get the chance at accuracy.
Supposedly Springfield is good about fixing any problems which
may come up, and they also offer extensive cusomizing facilities
if you want a competion quality rifle.  

Some of the older HK 91's had problems with headspace, thus causing
case head seperation.  That, plus the annoying way they mark up the
brass can be reasons not to buy.  They are also very front-heavy,
which is great for soaking up muzzle-jump, but poor for longterm
freehand shooting.

>> 
>> Regarding the semi-auto M14s, I have seen ads by both
>> Sherwood and Armsport.  They apparently are getting their
>> receivers from the same supplier and they both
>> mention a waiting period of 4 to 6 weeks before
>> shipment.  The dealer price for the completely
>> assembled gun is over $600, less if you purchase
>> kits and build it yourself.

If you buy an M14 clone, buy it from Springfield Armory, they've
been doing it for a while and are probably your best bet.

>> 
>> Jon Kaplowitz
>> cbosgd!erc3ba!jfka

				Robert Allen,
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