Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!jkh From: jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) Newsgroups: mod.rec.guns Subject: Re: mod.rec.guns: Gun selection Message-ID: <1566@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 31-Oct-86 18:30:33 EST Article-I.D.: jade.1566 Posted: Fri Oct 31 18:30:33 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Nov-86 21:35:38 EST References: <1425@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, <1490@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 40 Approved: jkh@ucbjade Author: Bruce Coorpender In-Reply-To: <1535@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Article: 10:56 In article <1535@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> you write: > >> There are a few things to consider when purchasing a "home-defense" weapon. > > >There is something to be said for being able to defend yourself against >dangerous intruders, in the event that the police aren't available or >can't get there quickly enough. But note, "defend". Unless you truly >believe that your possessions are more important than your life, your >best move (situation permitting) is still to hole up in a well-protected >location and use your weaponry only if the intruder(s) mount a determined >attack. There are lesser reasons for this, like the courts taking a dim >view of you shooting someone except in such a dire emergency (no, the law >is *not* automatically on your side if you shoot a prowler), but your own >survival seems sufficient reason all by itself. > > Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology > {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry I do not believe that my possessions are worth more than MY life. Nor do I believe that they are worth the life of another. However, if someone has entered my house particularily at night, I am neither concerned about my possessions or their life. My primary mission is to survive, and consider that the best way to do so is to be behind my water bed armed. The courts' views of course vary. Oregon statutory law bestows the 'right' to use deadly force against a mere intruder into the 'home'. Case law in the state has charted a path of some assumption of danger on the part of the homeowner to justify that. You don't have to be in fear of your life, but be fearful that you could be hurt. If anyone enters my house at night, I would be afraid that I COULD be hurt, and would take all possible measures to kill the intruder. I have the provincial notion that this reduces recidivism. [This sort of macho B***S*** is bound to provoke some flames. Fine, it gets cool in Oregon this time of year, flames welcome.] BC