Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!std-unix From: std-unix@ut-sally.UUCP (Moderator, John Quarterman) Newsgroups: mod.std.unix Subject: Re: job control Message-ID: <6238@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Nov-86 10:24:17 EST Article-I.D.: ut-sally.6238 Posted: Wed Nov 5 10:24:17 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Nov-86 22:22:02 EST References: <6176@ut-sally.UUCP> <6014@ut-sally.UUCP> <6001@ut-sally.UUCP> <5965@ut-sally.UUCP> <5932@ut-sally.UUCP> <5991@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: IEEE P1003 Portable Operating System for Computer Environments Committee Lines: 31 Approved: jsq@sally.utexas.edu From: seismo!hadron!jsdy@sally.utexas.edu (Joseph S. D. Yao) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 86 22:47:30 est Organization: Hadron, Inc., Fairfax, VA In article <6176@ut-sally.UUCP> you write: >From: seismo!mcvax!jack >Organization: AMOEBA project, CWI, Amsterdam >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 86 23:39:03 +0100 > >*CURRENT JOB CONTROL IMPLEMENTATIONS ARE HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE! >HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!* >Both solutions are filled with horrible tricks like closing >tty's and re-opening them and then doing funny ioctl()s and the closing >them again and then reopening then and then... >It is of course a praiseworthy feat that the folks at HP managed to >sqeeze those two horrible, inconsistent, unintellegible mechanisms >into one poor kernel, but I'm afraid the result is horrible**2. >>From now on, you can find me in the "job control is horrible" camp. Jack, one gets the vague feeling you dislike these implementations, without the least notion why. Could you please meditate, or take a pill, or whatever soothes you, and then tell us exactly why you feel this way? (You may wish to take frequent mellow breaks.) Perhaps you could also tell us what you feel defines a non-horrible job control implementation. Thank you! -- Joe Yao hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP} jsdy@hadron.COM (not yet domainised) Volume-Number: Volume 8, Number 41