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From: rha@bunker.UUCP (Robert H. Averack)
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Subject: Re: More sports Trivia
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Date: Wed, 26-Nov-86 09:06:26 EST
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Posted: Wed Nov 26 09:06:26 1986
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In article <1479@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> speter@athena.mit.edu (Peter Osgood) writes:
>>     The Buffalo Braves moved to San Diego and became the Clippers.  Later,
>>they moved to Los Angeles.  The Syracuse Nationals became the Philadelphia
>>76'ers.
>
>This is the one everyone has gotten caught on.  It was not intended to be
>a trick question but maybe in fact that is the way it has worked out.
>Anyway, in 1978 John Y. Brown, then owner of the Boston Celtics, ran a
>deal with the owners of the Buffalo Braves (The Jacobs Bros. I believe).
>In effect what happened was the Braves team was moved to Boston with
>most of its players and became the Celtics.  The Celtics team with most
>of its players were moved to a new team in San Diego.  So now the old
>Braves owners were the Celtic owners and John Y. Brown sold his franchise
>to San Diego investors.  In essence one Boston franchise went out of
>existance and was replaced by the Braves franchise.  This is, BTW, how
>Bob McAdoo came to Boston.  A couple of asides  1)  Red Auerbach had
>threatened to retire, he really hated Brown  2) Chris Ford and Cedric
>Maxwell were allowed to remain in Boston because of contracts 3) Dave
>Cowens did retire.

     Are you sure about this Peter?  As I remember it (I lived in Buffalo
from 1976-1978), the franchise swap was, simply, a swap of title, with the
teams remaining, in tact and under new ownership, in their original cities
(this is the same thing that happened between the Los Angeles Rams and the
Baltimore Colts, when Robert Irsay and Carroll Rosenbloom swapped titles).
Following this, the Braves were moved to San Diego.

>Now, the Utah Jazz are actually a combination of the old Utah Stars
>and the New Orleans Jazz.

     I also believe this to be false.  The Utah Stars, like the Kentucky
Colonels, Virginia Squires, et. al., were dropped when the American Basketball
Association's New Jersey Nets, Indiana Pacers, San Antonio Spurs and Denver
Nuggets were merged into the NBA.  The New Orleans Jazz was an NBA expansion
team which was subsequently moved to Salt Lake City, two (I believe) years
after the ABA/NBA Merger.

     Of course, I could be mistaking.......Happy Thanksgiving, Peter.

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