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From: allanon@hope.UUCP (Kenneth Leung)
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Subject: Re: *** Spoilers: Star Trek IV
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Date: Sun, 30-Nov-86 11:24:47 EST
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> New questions also, which expose more spoilers...
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>> The reason Chekov was caught was that his communicator failed to
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> I thought that the reason was that Scotty lacked enough transporter power
> to pull over two people at once, so Uhura went first with the recharged
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  true, scotty didnt have enough power to beam both up, so he beamed one
at a time, but when Uhura went through his communication with Chekov was
breaking up and he couldnt lock the transporters for co-ordinates.

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>> It was probably just as damaged as his phasor.(sic)
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> The communicator was in operational condition, as Chekov was talking on
> it up to the moment everyone on the Enterprise started pointing guns
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  the communicator was in a bad shape anyhow, noticed how much static there
was between their communication?
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> Was anybody else *REALLY* disappointed they revived the Constitution
> class ships *JUST* for Kirk?  I thought they were scrapping the series!
> Oh, I could see they giving Kirk a bigger version of the Reliant with
> the name Enterprise on it, or a cut down version of the Excelsior with
> the Enterprise name, or even a copy of the Excelsior, but not a carbon
> copy of the E itself!  I mean, didn't they have enough money in the
> budget for one more model?!?!
  I know, the special effects on that scene looks really bad. I dont know
but the Enterprise scenes in the end looks too fake, in comparision
with the scenes of Enterprise undocking in ST II or ST I. The bridge
scene is even worse.. I am not sure whether it is the particular angle
of shot or just the way the bridge is colored bright white, it simply 
looked bad....
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> Also, a question for those who understand the fine points of Earth
> military tradition...  Spock has been a Captain for two movies
> now.  Kirk has just been demoted to Captain.  Since Spock's date
> of rank as Captain now goes back farther than Kirk's date of rank
> as Captain, does that mean Spock now outranks Kirk?
Probably, if you come to think of it, I dont understand why Sulu wouldnt
be commanding his own ship, he also is qualified for it.

Another point to note, did anybody noticed the fact that when the Bird of
Prey decended on the whaling ship, there was no shadow? the thing was floating
above the ship but I see no shadow on the ship (it was a sunny day, too)
One thing I noted from ST I (I didnt say it is better) is that fine details
are noted, like when Kirk was inspecting the outside of the new Enterprise
it showed the shadows of the metal frame around the E  on him when he was 
looking, that is what I call details. The special effects is not as good
as I expected in ST IV.

-ken 

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