Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-unix!sri-spam!mordor!styx!lll-lcc!pyramid!decwrl!jumbo!kolling From: kolling@jumbo.UUCP Newsgroups: soc.women,misc.consumers,net.veg,net.pets Subject: Re: animal testing for cosmetic and household products Message-ID: <569@jumbo.dec.com> Date: Tue, 18-Nov-86 18:15:59 EST Article-I.D.: jumbo.569 Posted: Tue Nov 18 18:15:59 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Nov-86 07:21:22 EST Organization: DEC Systems Research Center, Palo Alto Lines: 21 Xref: watmath soc.women:961 misc.consumers:238 net.veg:983 net.pets:2828 > Better the animal than me. Sueing someone when I am dead doesn't help. > Also, would you seriously trust your life to a computer program, given > current software engineering standards. There are at least two aspects to testing using animals: (1) testing cosmetics and other non-essentials, and (2) testing medicines. Possibly someone can make a case for inflicting pain and death on an animal in the latter case (although I wouldn't agree), but there is certainly no ethically acceptable case for the former. Also, even if you believe that the latter is justified, many tests on animals simply have no relevance to humans, many are unnecessary duplications, many involve much more mistreatment of animals than is necessary to get the test results. > Also, there is a paradox here > if the animals are not used for testing, than they will not be born. > Supply and demand, gotta love capitalism. This is a truly incredible statement. One of the major causes of animal suffering is the tremendous number of animals born who are destined to be homeless because people don't have their present animals neutered.