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From: jgd@uwmcsd1.UUCP (John G Dobnick)
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.groups
Subject: Re: Re: Information requested on succes
Message-ID: <1504@uwmcsd1.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 13-Nov-86 18:47:07 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov 13 18:47:07 1986
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From previous articles we see the following:

>> Any new user should consult the articles in the newsgroup
>  
>>       mod.announce.newusers
>  
>> These articles are re=posted every month or so, so that
>> they should usually be available.
> 
> I wonder if we could motivate *ALL* sites to retain articles in this group
> for, at least, 6 weeks ..... for obvious reasons!!!

[Mounting High Horse]

Time to once again suggest something *obvious*.  The order of newsgroup
presentation should be changed to display mod.announce.newusers >>*first*<<!!

This will automatically make this information available to new users, without
*any* action on their part.  The "without *any* action on their part" is the
operative part of the preceding statement.  This small change will, by
default, solve the majority of the "ignorance problem" for the unknowing
new users.  (I know it would have for me.  I got burned [flamed?] for a
breach of net.etiquette that I was unaware of because the "new users"
articles arrived 2 weeks AFTER we were on the net.) 

Please note the following: mod.announce.newusers is displayed a *considerable*
ways down the list of news groups -- certainly after all the comp.* groups,
and after many of the mod.* groups.  Placing mod.announce.newusers at the
top of the list certainly seems a "user friendly" thing to do.

Question for the net.gods:  Can the "checkgroups" posting do this rearrangement
automatically?  If not, why not?  Will it "break" anything?  This seems, from
my admittedly less than perfect vantage point, such a simple change for such
general benefit.

[Dismounting]

So, what say you all?  Is this a worthwhile suggestion, or am I merely all wet?
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John G Dobnick
Computing Services Division @ University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
UUCP: ...ihnp4!uwmcsd1!jgd
INTERNET: jgd@csd1.milw.wisc.edu

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John G Dobnick
Computing Services Division @ University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
UUCP: ...ihnp4!uwmcsd1!jgd
INTERNET: jgd@csd1.milw.wisc.edu