Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-unix!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!cartan!rathmann From: rathmann@cartan.UUCP Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: Abuses of the net Message-ID: <411@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 23-Nov-86 07:24:00 EST Article-I.D.: cartan.411 Posted: Sun Nov 23 07:24:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Nov-86 01:19:51 EST References: <225@mind.UUCP> <21023@styx.UUCP> <228@mind.UUCP> <21030@styx.UUCP> <231@mind.UUCP> Sender: daemon@cartan.Berkeley.EDU Reply-To: rathmann@brahms.berkeley.EDU (Really Michael Ellis) Organization: 2-3:30PM, tuesdays and thursdays Lines: 208 Keywords: shit fuck piss Summary: obviously disturbed Va negvpyr <231@zvaq.HHPC> uneanq@zvaq.HHPC (Cevaprgba Cevffobl) jevgrf: >Gur vffhr va guvf pnfr jnf abg zrer bssrafvirarff, ohg nohfvirarff -- >nq ubzvarz pbcebynyvn, gb or cerpvfr. Nj cbbe onol. Zbzzl abg ohl lbh fbzr ehoore wnzzvrf ynfg gvzr lbh jrag ubzrfvr jbzrfvr? Qvq lbh sbetrg gb chg ba lbhe qvncref jura lbh fvtarq ba? Urrurr. >V guvax gur rkgenpg (juvpu unf ol abj >orra dhbgrq bsgra rabhtu) fcrnxf sbe vgfrys. Bs pbhefr lbh qb. Lbh'ir tbg fuvg sbe oenvaf, nf lbh'ir orra znxvat nohaqnagyl pyrne. Urrurr. >V pna'g uryc guvaxvat gung gubfr >jub fnl vg jnf dhbgrq bhg bs pbagrkg zhfg rvgure or wbxvat be unir unq gurve >frafrf ahzorq ol rkcbfher gb gbb zhpu orunivbe bs guvf fbeg. Jryy, lbh'ir tbg n cerggl yvzvgrq oenva, V'z jvyyvat gb tenag lbh gung. Ybgf bs crbcyr guvax bgurejvfr, naq lbh pna bayl fnl gung gurve rvgure yvnef be fghcvq. Wrrm, jung na vafhygvat naq nohfvir yvggyr nffubyr lbh ner. Urrurr. >Gur bayl >pbaprvinoyr pbagrkg gung pbhyq unir orra svyyrq va nebhaq gur rkgenpgf >V dhbgrq gung jbhyq unir whfgvsvrq gurz jbhyq unir orra vs gurl jrer >gurzfryirf dhbgrf sebz fbzrbar ryfr'f nohfrf bs fbzrbar ryfr naq gur Arg. Gur bayl pbaprvinoyr pbagrkg? Frm jub? Gur pbtavgvir ratvarre jub jebgr gur NV cebtenz gung lbh hfr sbe n zvaq? Jurer qb gurl trg nohfvir "V nz abg nohfvir" zbebaf yvxr lbh sebz naljnl? Yrnxvat frcgvp gnaxf? Urrurr. >Nf gb cyhenyvgl naq pbagebirefl, va cynpr bs na vapyvangvba gb >fhccerff vg, lbh zvtug fnl V unq n pregnva cebsrffvbany vagrerfg naq >vaibyirzrag va sbfgrevat vg. V fhccbfr jr'er fhccbfrq gb gunax bhe yhpxl fgnef sbe gung. Vs lbh qvqa'g fubj hc, guvf arg jbhyq unir tebhaq gb n unyg ynfg jrrx. Urrurr. >Nq ubzvarz nohfr, ba gur bgure unaq, V'z >engure pbzzvggrq gb pbzonggvat. Lbh ratntr va vg lbhefrys cerggl ybhqyl. Naq fghcvqyl, V znl nqq. Urrurr. >V unir arvgure gur cbjre abe gur qrfver gb qvpgngr. Lbh qb unir gur cbjre naq qrfver gb sneg gubhtu. Urrurr. >V >fvzcyl qvq jung lbh cebsrff gb or qrsraqvat. V nverq zl bja ernpgvbaf >gb jung V ivrjrq nf hapbafpvbanoyr orunivbe. Nverq? Nf va oebxr jvaq? V gubhtug fb. Urrurr. >Vg unf frireny gvzrf orra >thzoyvatyl fhttrfgrq ol jnl bs erfcbafr gung *V* nz gur bar jub bhtug gb >or gnxra bss gur Arg, cerfhznoyl sbe iraghevat gb rkcerff zl ivrjf ntnvafg >fbzrbar'f nq ubzvarz pbcebynyvn. Jung n cvffcbbe yvne lbh ner. Vg'f orra fhttrfgrq gung lbh or gnxra bss orpnhfr lbh ner fb erznexnoyl naq ulfgrevpnyyl ehqr nobhg vg, jvgu ab frafr bs pbafpvbhapr bgure guna lbhe bja zbebavp cevffvarff. Urrurr. >Vg'f na bqq fgngr bs nssnvef jura crbcyr >pna ivrj gurzfryirf nf gur evtugrbhf qrsraqref bs serr fcrrpu jura gurl >gurl ehfu gb gur qrsrapr bs fbzrbar'f evtug gb gryy fbzrbar ryfr fur unf >"fuvg-sbe-oenvaf" juvyr pynzbhevat gung fbzrbar ryfr bhtug gb or qrcevirq >bs uvf evtug gb qrabhapr vg. Qrabhapr vg, lrf. Or n pbzcyrgr fuvg-sbe-oenvaf nffubyr nobhg vg, ab. Urrurr. >V unq n srj va zvaq. Bar jnf gung gubfr, yvxr zlfrys, jub srry gung >fhpu orunivbe ercerfragf n tenir nohfr bs gur Arg, fubhyq znxr gurve ivrjf >xabja, Jub tvirf n qnza nobhg lbhe ivrjf? V org n qbmra zbaxrlf cvffvat sbe n gubhfnaq lrnef pbhyq pbzr hc jvgu orggre ivrjf guna lbh'ir tbg. Urrurr. >engure guna, ol qrsnhyg, rapbhentvat crbcyr jub ner fb vapyvarq >gb npg bhg va guvf jnl jvgubhg nal rkcrpgngvba bs choyvp pbafrdhraprf. Naq abj, sbe fbzrguvat pbzcyrgryl qvssrerag. Ynqvrf naq Tragyrzra, Nffubyrf naq Srpnysnprf, sbe gur svefg gvzr ba nal arg, V cerfrag gb lbh gur Fgrina "Cevaprgba Cevffobl" Uneanaq gurzr fbat: Fuvg-sbe-oenvaf, fuvg-sbe-oenvaf, Jung nz V tbvat gb qb, Abj gung V'ir tbg fuvg-sbe-oenvaf? Zl zbzzvr jnf n svfu, ohg zl qnqqvr pbhyqa'g fjvz! Ub! Fuvg-sbe-oenvaf, fuvg-sbe-oenvaf, Jung nz V tbvat gb rng, Abj gung V'ir tbg fuvg-sbe-oenvaf? Zl fvfgre unq ab haqrejrne, fnirq ure ynhaqel ovyy! Ub! Fuvg-sbe-oenvaf, fuvg-sbe-oenvaf, Jung nz V tbvat gb cbfg, Abj gung V'ir tbg fuvg-sbe-oenvaf? BU AB! JUNG QVQ V WHFG QB? JUNG'F TBVAT GB UNCCRA GB ZR? Ba gur vafgnag ercynl fyb-pnz, gurer jr frr gur nafjre, ybhq naq pyrne: C H O Y V P P B A F R D H R A P R F Urrurr. >V nyfb jvfurq gb qenj gur pnfr gb gur nggragvba bs gur eryrinag >nhgubevgvrf fb gung vs (nf V ubcrq) gurer jrer ehyrf ntnvafg fhpu orunivbe, >gurl zvtug or rasbeprq. Jryy, gurer nva'g. Lbh yhpxrq bhg. Urrurr. >[Nf vg unccraf, gur nppbhag va dhrfgvba jnf fuhg qbja >orpnhfr gur vaqvivqhny jub unq cbfgrq gur zrffntr jnf abg gur nhgubevmrq >hfre bs gur nppbhag, naq gung ivbyngrq gur ehyrf bs gur flfgrz; fb, nf gur >flfgrz nqzvavfgengbe vaqvpngrq, gur ybpny znggre vf "zbbg."] Qnzarq yhpxl guvat gbb. Fvapr V qba'g rkvfg nalzber, V pna fnl jungrire gur shpx V jnag naq abg gerzoyr va zl obbgvrf. Lbh ubjrire ner tbvat gb fhssre harkcrpgrq objry ceboyrzf nf ybat nf lbh ernq gur arg. Fb trg fbzr ehoore cnwnznf arkg gvzr nebhaq. Gurl ner n ybg rnfvre gb svaq gura n frafr bs uhzbe. Urrurr. >Svanyyl, V >jnagrq gb freir bcra abgvpr gung bar crefba, ng yrnfg, jnf cercnerq >arvgure gb pbagevohgr gb gur vzcerffvba gung bar unf ab pubvpr, jura >fbzrbar ryfr'f cevingr nabznyvrf ner ehqryl sbeprq ba bar va choyvp, Lbh org. Nf ybat nf lbh fcernq gung frys-evtugrbhf ubefr znaher gung lbh pnyy "erfrnepu" va fpv.ynat, V'yy or gurer fgnaqvat hc sbe nyy hf Fgnasbeq Onaq sna pyho zrzoref. >orypu< (|) * uvp * Urrurr. >ohg gb >jnyx njnl sebz vg va fvyrapr, yrnivat gur crecrgngbe gb ercrng fhpu >nagvfbpvny nagvpf ba bguref, abe jnf ur cercnerq gb or qenja vagb nal >onpx-naq-sbegu ebhaq bs erfcbaqvat va xvaq. Uhu? Jub nfxrq lbh gb erfcbaq va xvaq? Vs gurer jnf nal qbhog orsber, vg'f cerggl pyrne gung lbh'ir tbg gur fuvg lbh unir sbe oenvaf vf pbzvat bhg bs nyy bs lbhe obqvyl bevsvprf fvzhygnarbhfyl. Ohg gurer'f bayl bar guvat pbzvat bhg bs nal bs zl bevsvprf ng gur zbzrag: Urrurr. -zvpunry ... gur rcvfgrzbybtvpny nanepuvfg unf ab pbzchpgvba gb qrsraq gur zbfg gevgr, be gur zbfg bhgentrbhf fgngrzrag. ... ur znl hfr ernfba, rzbgvba, evqvphyr, na `nggvghqr bs frevbhf pbaprea' naq jungrire bgure zrnaf unir orra vairagrq ol uhznaf gb trg gur orggre bs gurve sryybj zra. Uvf snibhevgr cnfgvzr vf gb pbashfr engvbanyvfgf ... Gurer vf ab ivrj, ubjrire `nofheq' be `vzzbeny', ur ershfrf gb pbafvqre be gb npg hcba, naq ab zrgubq vf ertneqrq nf vaqvfcrafnoyr. -Cnhy X Srlrenoraq "Ntnvafg Zrgubq" Ohg gur obhdhrg jnf guvf fgbel bs Znubbq'f va juvpu V nccrne V nccrne nf hcfrg ng univat orra qryvirerq fb rpbabzvpnyyl bs n cnpx bs oybbq eryngvbaf, abg gb zragvba gur gjb phagf vagb gur onetnva, gur bar sbe rire npphefrq gung rwrpgrq zr vagb guvf jbeyq naq gur bgure, vashaqvohyvsbez, va juvpu, chzcvat zl yvxrf, V gevrq gb gnxr zl eriratr. Gb gryy gur gehgu, yrg hf or ubarfg ng yrnfg, vg vf fbzr pbafvqrenoyr gvzr abj fvapr V ynfg xarj jung V jnf gnyxvat nobhg. Vg vf orpnhfr zl gubhtugf ner ryfrjurer. V nz gurersber sbetvira. Fb ybat nf bar'f gubhtugf ner fbzrjurer rirelguvat vf crezvggrq. Ba gura, jvgubhg zvftvivat, nf vs abguvat unq unccrarq. -Fnzhry O Orpxrgg "Gur Haanzrnoyr"