Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!rocksvax!rocksanne!sunybcs!zucker From: zucker@sunybcs.uucp (Jeffery I. Zucker) Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,sci.lang Subject: Origin of name "Kalman": Responses Message-ID: <1470@sunybcs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Nov-86 00:33:33 EST Article-I.D.: sunybcs.1470 Posted: Thu Nov 20 00:33:33 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Nov-86 05:07:01 EST Sender: nobody@sunybcs.UUCP Reply-To: zucker@sunybcs.UUCP (Jeffery I. Zucker) Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science Lines: 24 Xref: mnetor soc.culture.jewish:123 sci.lang:168 There have had two responses to my query: Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of the Jewish (Yiddish?) personal name "Kalman"? (1) From Lambert Meertens (lambert@mcvax.UUCP): I don't know of a Jewish name "Kalman", but I know it is a common last name in Hungary, except that Hungarians put their last name first (as in Kalman Emmerich, the light opera composer). Maybe there is some connection, maybe not. There was a king Kalman of Hungary in the Middle Ages, I think the twelfth century, who abolished witch trials, something that happened only six centuries later in most other countries. (2) From Adam Reed (mtund!adam): According to Alfred J. Kolatch, Dictionary of First Names, 1980, Kalman is a short form of Kalonymos, a variant of the Latin name Clement, meaning "merciful" or "gracious". The name originated in 8th century Italy, and was popular among eminent Jewish families in Germany from the 9th to the 13th centuries. My comment: If the Hungarian name "Kalman" comes from the Latin "Clement", then these two explanations are connected.