Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!heathcliff.columbia.edu!zdenek From: zdenek@heathcliff.columbia.edu (Zdenek Radouch) Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: freshman physics Message-ID: <4087@columbia.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Dec-86 15:12:47 EST Article-I.D.: columbia.4087 Posted: Thu Dec 11 15:12:47 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Dec-86 21:46:17 EST Sender: nobody@columbia.UUCP Reply-To: zdenek@heathcliff.columbia.edu.UUCP (Zdenek Radouch) Organization: Columbia University CS Department Lines: 19 >Consider the following thought experiment: > > Take 2 identical cars and place them nose to nose. Rig the > accelerators of both so that you can give equal acceleration > to each. Now slowly increase the accelerations of the two > cars. Assuming that there is no slippage of the wheels, the > cars will remain motionless.... Note that if the cars are nose to nose (or as you pointed out motionless) you cannot "slowly increase the acceleration". They are not moving let alone accelerating. If there was no slippage of the wheels the engine couldn't run. You have to take care of conservation of energy even in a thought experiment. The work output of the engine can't just disappear. The cars are not moving so the energy delivered by the engine has to go somewhere else. The wheels must slip but the car will be motionless because the forces are balanced. zdenek zdenek@cs.columbia.edu or ...!seismo!columbia!cs!zdenek