Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-unix!hplabs!decwrl!pyramid!ctnews!gypsy!andrew!hoey@nrl-aic.ARPA From: hoey@nrl-aic.ARPA Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Speed of light Message-ID: <252@sri-arpa.ARPA> Date: Mon, 17-Nov-86 16:10:14 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.252 Posted: Mon Nov 17 16:10:14 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Nov-86 21:22:02 EST Lines: 38 From: Dan Hoey Date: Thu, 6 Nov 86 23:57:34 EST From: "Keith F. Lynch" ... Since 1982 the length of the meter (and hence of the inch, mile, etc) has been defined in terms of the length of the second and the speed of light. This means that the speed of light is now constant by definition. This also means that since 1982, nobody has measured the speed of light. Anyone who thought he was doing so was actually measuring the length of the meter! ...Keith As I recall, the definition is chosen so as to make the speed of light an integral number of meters per second. Do you know the number? Also, I have heard that the integral number of m/s applies only at some experimentally convenient ultralow pressure, and that the speed in vacuum is still subject to errors in measurement of refractive index. Can you corroborate or debunk this? I mostly want the value to make an accurate not-just-a-good-idea-it's- the-law (or my-limits) bumper sticker or button for a change. The common approximation of 186000 mi/s is galling, since so many people take it for scripture. Speaking of scripture, my grandfather was into biblical numerology (for lack of a better term). He took a phrase about the light of heaven being a thousand times that of the earth, and wrote a paper about the length of heaven's light year and the number of square LY in heaven and the like. Of course he used 186000 mi/s and carried his results out to dozens of figures. What stupefied me was his use of a year composed of 24*365 + 12/4 hours. This from a man who was alive in 1900! And what cretin decided to metrify our speed limits into km/hr, anyway? Dan Hoey HOEY@NRL-AIC.ARPA