Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!styx!mordor!sri-spam!sri-unix!hplabs!ucbvax!DFVLROP1.BITNET!ESG7 From: ESG7@DFVLROP1.BITNET Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Why not F-1s for Jarvis? -and- Is TAU a boondoggle? Message-ID: <8611171047.AA09235@s1-b.arpa> Date: Mon, 17-Nov-86 05:48:43 EST Article-I.D.: s1-b.8611171047.AA09235 Posted: Mon Nov 17 05:48:43 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Nov-86 20:53:08 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 69 This note concerns Henry Spencer's posting in Vol. 7, No. 45 in Space Digest. I would like to begin by offering my thanks to Henry for his distillations from Aviation Week. I'm located in Goettingen, West Germany (AVA-DFVLR). The DFVLR library doesn't receive Aviation Week until fairly late, so Henry's efforts are greatly appreciated. Also it seems that Henry does a much better job of reading Aviation Week than I do, since he's always finding tidbits that I missed. Henry's last postings raised two questions in my mind. Why is it, that to remanufacture the old F-1 engines is more expensive than using SSMEs? It seems ludicrous to be throwing a reuseable SSME into the sea when a cheaper and higher performance F-1 (which is designed to be use-once-throw-away) is the obvious choice. Admittedly there is an initial tool up expense. However it is hard to believe that this expense couldn't be quickly offset by the lower launch cost for an F-1 based Jarvis. I've always thought that the F-1 engine was one of the more important technologies to come out of the Apollo program, and its premature obsolesence was a serious error. On another subject the TAU (Thousand Astronautical Unit) spacecraft smacks of being a boondoggle. Who in his right mind would want to fund a multimillion dollar spacecraft that literally goes nowhere? If you want to argue that it is a test bed for a high preformance nuclear-ion propulsion system, then my snappy comeback is the money could be better spent on a comet rendevous using the same technology. An even better mission would be a Pluto orbiter. I've always thought that Pluto might well be an example of a "rogue planet" which was created outside of the solar system. The theory is that Pluto approached the solar system on a hyperbolic trajectory, (which by definition means it would have escape velocity), but was captured because it had a near miss with the moon Triton orbiting Neptune. Both Triton and Pluto have very irregular orbits, and Pluto does intersect with Neptune's orbit. Therefore this theory isn't as nutty as it first sounds. When Voyager flies by Triton, we'll have more evidence to fuel or quench speculation. On any event this TAU mission strikes me as a misuse of limited planetary exploration funds. Gary Allen