Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: Why not F-1s for Jarvis? -and- Is TAU a boondoggle? Message-ID: <7330@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Nov-86 14:14:15 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.7330 Posted: Wed Nov 19 14:14:15 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Nov-86 14:14:15 EST References: <8611171047.AA09235@s1-b.arpa> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 20 > ... Why is it, that to > remanufacture the old F-1 engines is more expensive than using SSMEs? My guess would be that the problem is not so much cost as uncertainty. The F-1 production line shut down a long time ago, and it's not clear that the tooling and plans were preserved properly. (To say nothing of the analogous problem with subcontractors, e.g. the people who used to supply small quantities of very precisely formulated alloys -- they may not even be using the same production processes nowadays, which would make it very hard to be sure that the resulting alloys are exactly the same.) There's no doubt that production could be restarted; the hard part is restarting it accurately enough that you don't need to start engine testing all over again. Even small variations in materials could affect things enough to make it a gamble to fly new-production F-1s without a thorough test program. Hughes can't afford such a test program if it's going to make the deadline for the USAF MLV contract; as it is the Jarvis will be a bit late, although Hughes hopes that the large payload will make up for this. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry