Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!im4u!milano!mcc-pp!patrick From: patrick@mcc-pp.UUCP (Patrick McGehearty) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Launching shuttles soon Message-ID: <2038@mcc-pp.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Nov-86 10:44:18 EST Article-I.D.: mcc-pp.2038 Posted: Thu Nov 13 10:44:18 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Nov-86 21:47:24 EST References: <7254@utzoo.UUCP> <346@xios.UUCP> <7275@utzoo.UUCP> <1010@husc2.UUCP> <260@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> Organization: MCC, Austin, TX Lines: 29 Summary: Risk assessment I think this extended discussion of when the astronauts are willing to fly is based on a misapprehension about why they raised the issue. I am basing my opinions on books such as The Right Stuff, and general knowledge of risk-takers and organization politics. The astronauts are not afraid to fly when a reasonable risk/cost/feasiblity tradeoff has been and the best available (in terms of time/cost/etc) fixes have been implemented. However, the crash and following investigation gives strong evidence that they disagree with previous policy on what are the reasonable tradeoffs. Therefore, they are trying to change the organization structure so that the "astronauts" as a group have significant input in making these tradeoff decisions. Statements like "We won't fly until its fixed" are made for reasons of political positioning. While legally it is feasible to order flights over astronaut objections, it is politically shakey. Imagine what would happen to NASA if some number of astronauts were saying the shuttle was unsafe, and another one blew up!!? (as an organization, and to the decision makers, never mind the national tragedy aspects) Witch hunts instead of white washes would be the order of the day. I suspect that the astronauts will knowing accept considerable risks if they feel in control of the risk assessment process. I also believe that they are more concerned with the success of the space program as a whole than their individual risk, but that like the rest of the above is just my opinion. - Patrick McGehearty (A Space Advocate like (most of) the rest of you)