Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-crg!nike!eugene From: eugene@nike.uucp (Eugene Miya N.) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Launching shuttles soon Message-ID: <743@nike.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Nov-86 21:18:48 EST Article-I.D.: nike.743 Posted: Fri Nov 14 21:18:48 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Nov-86 05:25:08 EST References: <7254@utzoo.UUCP> <346@xios.UUCP> <7275@utzoo.UUCP> <1010@husc2.UUCP> <207@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> <137@uniq.UUCP> <504@fai.UUCP> Sender: usenet@nike.UUCP Reply-To: eugene@pioneer.UUCP (Eugene Miya N.) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 42 Keywords: Something to think about, heroism, and launch schedules The following is a bit to think. Under no circumstance should this be considered policy or a sign of how NASA (my employer) thinks about policy. This is strictly my opinion. Enough disclaimer. Shortly, after the Challenger accident it amazed me the attention given the the crew as Heros. Roger Noe and I discussed this a bit because we saw them more as victims. Shortly there after, I signed off due to the volume of trash in the space and shuttle groups. [I've only returned because of the reorganization of the net groups, and will leave when it gets bad again.] No discussion about sending crews up can take place with adequately considering some other major accidents. We typically think of an accident as a single focused event: Chernobyl is a good counter to this way of thinking. Consider, as I did several months ago, SUPPOSE there had existed a different emergency situation on the Challenger. Let's say it made it into orbit, but badily damaged, but the crew could live 10 days (stretching it), and further SUPPOSE, we had the capability to launch another shuttle during this time frame, but that since the weather was basically the same, we had to risk a rescue/second accident. (Assuming a potentially time wear-out problem.) Do we let the crew die in orbit (or try and re-enter in a crippled craft)? Do we risk a second crew to the potential of a similar accident under near identical conditions (remember we did not know within 10 days the cause of the accident) [give more thought to this condition, would you go up knowing the odds to save another crew in orbit, or is it a futile gesture]? These are the kinds of conditions which bring out heroism (or more victims). The space program has had many close calls in the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs (as well as similar Soviet problems). Sure, we are all going to be careful the NEXT time. It's our history. It's how mankind progresses. Sure, the next mission and subsequent ones are going to have increased awareness, but don't focus on this one problem. Don't forget there were other identified problems. Keep general awareness. --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center eugene@ames-aurora.ARPA "You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?" {hplabs,hao,nike,ihnp4,decwrl,allegra,tektronix,menlo70}!ames!aurora!eugene