Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!princeton!mind!harnad From: harnad@mind.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: More on Minsky on Mind(s) Message-ID: <465@mind.UUCP> Date: Sat, 24-Jan-87 10:34:27 EST Article-I.D.: mind.465 Posted: Sat Jan 24 10:34:27 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Jan-87 19:46:40 EST References: <460@mind.UUCP> <1032@cuuxb.UUCP> Organization: Cognitive Science, Princeton University Lines: 21 Keywords: mind-modeling, 1st-order awareness, higher-order awareness Summary: In modeling mind, don't count your interpretative chickens till your explanatory ones are hatched. Xref: watmath comp.ai:175 comp.cog-eng:40 mwm@cuuxb.UUCP (Marc W. Mengel) of AT&T-IS, Software Support, Lisle IL writes: > It seems to me that the human conciousness is actually more > of a C-n; C-1 being "capable of experiencing sensation", > C-2 being "capable of reasoning about being C-1", and C-n > being "capable of reasoning about C-1..C-(n-1)" for some > arbitrarily large n... Or was that really the intent of > the Minsky C-2? It's precisely this sort of overhasty overinterpretation that my critique of the excerpts from Minsky's forthcoming book was meant to counteract. You can't help yourself to higher-order C's until you've handled 1st-order C -- unless you're satisfied with hanging them on a hermeneutic sky-hook. -- Stevan Harnad (609) - 921 7771 {allegra, bellcore, seismo, rutgers, packard} !princeton!mind!harnad harnad%mind@princeton.csnet