Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!Diamond!aweinste From: aweinste@Diamond.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Harnad's epiphenomenalism Message-ID: <4021@quartz.Diamond.BBN.COM> Date: Tue, 10-Feb-87 14:41:21 EST Article-I.D.: quartz.4021 Posted: Tue Feb 10 14:41:21 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Feb-87 20:19:50 EST Reply-To: aweinste@Diamond.BBN.COM (Anders Weinstein) Distribution: world Organization: BBN Labs, Cambridge, MA Lines: 62 In defending his thesis of "methodological epiphenomenalism", one of Harnad's favorite strategies is apparently a variant of G.E. Moore's "naturalistic fallacy" argument: For any proposed definition of consciousness, he will ask: "You say consciousness is X, but why couldn't you just as well have X WITHOUT consciousness?" If we concede the meaningfulness of this question in all cases, obviously this objection will be decisive. But, I think this argument is as question-begging now as it was when Moore used it in ethical philosophy. The definer is proposing that X is just what consciousness IS. Accordingly, he does *not* grant that you could have X without consciousness since, on his view, X and consciousness are one and the same. Put another way, the materialist is not trying to ADD anything to the objective, causal story of X by calling it consciousness. Rather, he is attempting to illuminate the problematic common-sense notion of consciousness by showing how it is interpretable in naturalistic terms. Obviously the adequacy of any proposed definition of consciousness will need to be established; the issues to be considered will pertain to whether or not the definition does reasonable justice to the pre-analytic application of the term, etc. But these issues are just the usual ones for inter-theoretical identification, and don't present any special problem in the case of mind and brain. Another point that Harnad has often stated is that behavior is in practice our only criterion for the ascription of consciousness. While this is currently true, it does not at all preclude the revision of our theory in the direction of a more refined criterion. Compare, say, the definition of "gold." At one time, this substance was identifiable solely on the basis of its superficial properties such as color, hardness, and specific gravity. With the growth of scientific knowledge, a new definition of gold in terms of atomic structure has come to be accepted, and this criterion now supersedes the earlier ones. If you like, you might say that atomic theory came to reveal the "essence" of gold. I see no reason to suppose an analagous shift couldn't arise out of the study of the mind and brain. Harnad's "methodological epiphenomenalism" is a apparently an unavoidable consequence of his philosophy of mind, which seems to be epiphenomenalism simpliciter. I am surprised to find many of Harnad's interlocutors essentially granting him this controversial premise. Whatever happened to materialism? As I understood it, the whole field of cognitive science -- the rehabilitation of mentalistic theorizing in psychology -- was inspired by the philosophical insight that the functional states of computers seemed to have just the right sorts of features we would want for psycho-physical identification. Harnad must believe that this philosophy has failed, dooming us to return to an uneasy and unappealling view: ontological dualism coupled with methodological behaviorism -- the worst of both worlds. Well, I don't think we ought to give this up so easily. I would urge that cognitivists *not* buy into the premise of so many of Harnad's replies: the existence of some weird parallel universe of subjective experience. (Actually, *multiple* such universes, one per conscious subject, though of course the existence of more than my own is always open to doubt.) We should recognize no such private worlds. The most promising prospect we have is that conscious experiences are either to be identified with functional states of the brain or eliminated from our ultimate picture of the world. How this reduction is to be carried out in detail is naturally a matter for empirical study to reveal, but this should remain one (distant) goal of mind/brain inquiry. Anders Weinstein aweinste@DIAMOND.BBN.COM BBN Labs, Cambridge MA