Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: More on Minsky on Mind(s) Message-ID: <2112@dciem.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Jan-87 18:35:23 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.2112 Posted: Fri Jan 30 18:35:23 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Jan-87 20:42:39 EST References: <460@mind.UUCP> <1032@cuuxb.UUCP> <465@mind.UUCP> <470@mind.UUCP> Reply-To: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 23 Keywords: mind-modeling, 1st-order awareness, higher-order awareness Xref: dciem comp.ai:184 comp.cog-eng:46 Summary: > More ironic still, in arguing for the TTT and methodological >epiphenomenalism, I am actually saying: "Why do you care? Worrying about >consciousness will get you nowhere, and there's objective empirical >work to do!" > That's a highly prejudiced, anti-empirical point of view: "Ignore Theory A. It'll never help you. Theory B will explain the data better, whatever they may prove to be!" Sure, there's all sorts of objective empirical work to do. There's lots of experimental work to do as well. But there is also theoretical work to be done, to find out how best to describe our world. If the descriptions are simpler using a theory that embodies consciousness than using one that does not, then we SHOULD assume consciousness. Whether this is the case is itself an empirical question, which cannot be begged by asserting (correctly) that all behaviour can be explained without resort to consciousness. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmt