Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcnc!gatech!lll-lcc!ptsfa!hoptoad!tim From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: More on Minsky on Mind(s) Message-ID: <1744@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Thu, 5-Feb-87 02:10:19 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1744 Posted: Thu Feb 5 02:10:19 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Feb-87 09:40:25 EST References: <460@mind.UUCP> <1032@cuuxb.UUCP> <465@mind.UUCP> Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) Organization: Centram Systems, Berkeley Lines: 17 Xref: mnetor comp.ai:209 comp.cog-eng:52 How well respected is Minsky among cognitive psychologists? I was rather surprised to see him putting the stamp of approval on Drexler's "Engines of Creation", since the psychology is so amazingly shallow; e.g., reducing identity to a matter of memory, ignoring effects of the glands and digestion on personality. Drexler had apparently read no actual psychology, only AI literature and neuro-linguistics, and in my opinion his approach is very anti-humanistic. (Much like that of hard sf authors.) Is this true in general in the AI world? Is it largely incestuous, without reference to scientific observations of psychic function? In short, does it remain almost entirely speculative with respect to higher-order cognition? -- Tim Maroney, Electronic Village Idiot {ihnp4,sun,well,ptsfa,lll-crg,frog}!hoptoad!tim (uucp) hoptoad!tim@lll-crg (arpa) Second Coming Still Vaporware After 2,000 Years