Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!mark From: mark@cbosgd.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: Use of domains by uucp sites Message-ID: <3321@cbosgd.ATT.COM> Date: Sat, 31-Jan-87 18:13:00 EST Article-I.D.: cbosgd.3321 Posted: Sat Jan 31 18:13:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Feb-87 00:13:22 EST References: <3063@elroy.UUCP> <12496@sun.uucp> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Oh Lines: 45 Keywords: RFC In article <12496@sun.uucp> guy@sun.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes: >>Shouldn't there be new top level domains that dont confict with the DDN >>top level domains? > >No, there should be some control over hosts that purport to belong to >a subdomain of one of those domains. The theory is, I believe, that >those hosts (i.e., hosts not on the Internet but registered in some >subdomain of a DDN top-level domain) are really supposed to register >with somebody and get an MX record for them stuck into some name >server's database; I'd be inclined to say that if somebody just >invents a domain name that looks like a legal name, but doesn't >register and get MXed, they should be sued for false advertising. It >may look cute and properly Official, but it's not clear it helps get >mail moved around, which is the whole purpose of this exercise. A properly registered UUCP domain goes through the channels and gets all the pieces in place before they start to send out mail stamped as being from their new shiny domain name. This takes 2-8 weeks, since you have to make sure the UUCP Project has your registration, the dues are paid, the NIC has approved the registration and updated their nameserver, the UUCP nameserver has the right MX, the forwarder is all set up, and the UUCP map has been published with the new domain in it. (The UUCP map, being published monthly, is probably the major potential delay here, the rest takes only about 2-3 weeks.) Unfortunately, a lot of people out there have the August posting of smail, which isn't as crystal clear on this matter as it should be. It says "contact us for current registration policies" but a lot of people are just sending in the form and assuming it's OK to start using their domain name effective with the form they send us. There may also be people out there just making up names and using them, which is kind of like me stamping my outgoing mail "White-House.GOV". Easy to do, but not very likely to work. The current forms and instructions are more explicit about this. You have to contact us (at cbosgd!stargate!uucp-query) and we send you a CURRENT information packet with an application form, dues information, and other information. (By the way, dues start at $50/year for a 3rd level domain, at $150/year for 2nd level, and we're looking into the possibility of even lower prices for home computers.) Mark Horton Director, The UUCP Project