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From: pekka-r@obelix.UUCP (Pekka Akselin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: MINIX - From the mouth of the horse
Message-ID: <602@obelix.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 5-Feb-87 05:26:39 EST
Article-I.D.: obelix.602
Posted: Thu Feb  5 05:26:39 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 7-Feb-87 20:57:57 EST
References: <1026@botter.cs.vu.nl> <4564@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <4654@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <109@tg.UUCP>
Reply-To: pekka-r@obelix.UUCP (Pekka Akselin)
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Organization: University of Linkoping, Sweden
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Keywords: GNU MINIX FSF freedom

I can't keep my mouth shut any more.
And this is certainly the wrong place for this.

In article <109@tg.UUCP> scott@tg.UUCP (Scott Barman) writes:
>In article <4654@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> tower@prep.ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.) writes:
>>rms asked me to post this followup to article <1026@botter.cs.vu.nl>
>>of ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum).  I apologize for the delay (I was
>>keyboard-less at USENIX for the last week  ;-} ).
>> ... much deleted ...
>
>There is only one comment I want to make on GNU: it's too ambitious and
>altruistic!

What is the US "star wars" project (for example)? Idiotic too!

>  I cannot think for a minute that DEC, IBM, or any software
>house will adapt this idea in this capitalistic society and suspect that the
>practices will continue ad nauseum.

There are many other things going on in the world,
that is continuing ad nauseam.

>  I also think that the treatment of
>programmers in this document is wrong since GNU will NEVER (and I do mean
>NEVER) solve all computing problems.

Of course not. There is nothing that is so good that it can't be better.
The US "star wars" project will solve the "peace and freedom problem"
as the atomic bomb did (have you read your history?).
We have the answer, why don't look at it?

>Minix seems more realistic in the relm of society and applaud the idea.  Just
>as soon as I can get the book and software, I will install it (or try to)
>on my clone.  Thanks Andy Tannenbaum, I like the idea.

I too, but I don't through away GNU because of that. I am waiting because
I belive they will come out with something. And besides GNU Emacs and
Bison is allready here.

>Just one last note to the GNU people:
>The reason all groups trying to change peoples values in any area fails is
>because they never work with the goup they are trying to change (the women's
>movement finally learned this).  Most try to radically change it from the
>outside with alot of resentment!

What happens if no one tries anything? Our society will change, but it takes
time. Don't ask to what, I don't know (I hope to the better).

I am NOT communist, marxsist, socialist, capitalist, kaddafist or egoist.

I AM INDIVIDUALIST.        (And I want to live!!!)

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