Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!gatech!gitpyr!thomps From: thomps@gitpyr.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: Public Domain (?) Yacc (Important) [I TOLD the NET SO!!] Message-ID: <3066@gitpyr.gatech.EDU> Date: Mon, 9-Feb-87 20:40:28 EST Article-I.D.: gitpyr.3066 Posted: Mon Feb 9 20:40:28 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Feb-87 18:37:42 EST References: <142@ems.UUCP> <464@yetti.UUCP> <1186@husc6.UUCP> <1191@husc6.UUCP> Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 44 Summary: Don't kill the net on principle In article <1191@husc6.UUCP>, ddl@husc6.UUCP (Dan Lanciani) writes: > In article <3056@gitpyr.gatech.EDU>, thomps@gitpyr.gatech.EDU (Ken Thompson) writes: > > Those of us who would like to see the net continue to exist need to > > protect the legal integrity of the net. If AT&T decided to legally > > challenge a number of major backbone sites the net might quickly cease > > to exist. Most would probably simply drop the net like hot potato. > > Are you sure this is the "legal integrity" of the net and not > the AT&T-compatibility of the net? I suspect that if I decided to legally > challenge the net because of something I thought was stolen from me then > nobody would even notice. This is because I can't aford a good (set of) > lawyer(s). Does might make right? In other words, if the reason for not > doing X is that X is illegal, and even that the law will punish you for > doing X, then that is reasonable. On the other hand, if the reason for > not doing X is that X's owner can sue you out of existence, then the "law" > is strongly biased in favor of might. Note that I am *not* talking about > the morality of stealing software; this is a completely different issue. > I personally do not want to endanger the net over a questionable issue. I don't know who is right and who is wrong in this case legally. My concern is that I would rather see the code assumed to be proprietary and kept off the net until proven otherwise because I still feel the net is vuknerable to lawsuits and I don't want it to disappear over what appears to be a questionable case anyway judging by the discussion. I have no desire to either protect or harm AT&T. I am more concerned about protecting the net. Georgia Tech is a backbone site and am sure if threatened with a major lawsuit over something to do with the net they would drop it like a hot potato. It would have nothing to do with intimidation. It would simply be a case that the powers that be (In this case probably the Ga, University System Board of regents) wouldn't think the net worth fighting a major lawsuit for regardless of right or wrong. You may be correct that no one would take you seriously if you threatened to sue because unfortunately lawsuits take a lot of money and your ability to sustain a suit would probably be doubted. and no -- Ken Thompson (No not that Ken Thompson) Georgia Tech Research Institute Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!thomps