Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!brl-adm!seismo!mimsy!chris From: chris@mimsy.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: Another kind of su program Message-ID: <5398@mimsy.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Feb-87 04:09:17 EST Article-I.D.: mimsy.5398 Posted: Thu Feb 12 04:09:17 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Feb-87 02:04:41 EST References: <4055@caip.RUTGERS.EDU> <912@aicchi.UUCP> <288@acornrc.UUCP> <9150@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 22 Keywords: su, system security >>.. System administrators would have to sweep the entire disk for >>setuid root programs every time a user was de-authorized. In article <9150@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> hedrick@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick) writes: >Careful system administrators use "find" to look at all setuid and >setgid programs on a regular basis. It's not a big chore. That's >what programs are for. Your `find' has been doctored. Your compiler has been hacked; when you compile it, it inserts code that recognises itself and find. Want more? Ask Ken Thompson. All you can decide is how much effort to spend on security. The more effort, the more security, but one approaches `secure' only asymptotically. -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7690) UUCP: seismo!mimsy!chris ARPA/CSNet: chris@mimsy.umd.edu